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    I am geting ready to start 1st cycle and I read all the posts and everyone is diff. Do I want to do a test only or do I want to stack any info would be nice I want to go for mass and strength 5'7 200LBS bf not sure I do have a lil gut been lifting off and on for years but really been lifting good for a few months thanks

  • #2
    test only is a good first cycle if i were to add anything it would be dbol weeks 1-4 @ 40mgs/day but test only is fine

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    • #3
      woulld def throw in some deca/eq to help keep gains...my first cycle was enenthate 750/mgs week...deca/400 mgsweek.. and dbols for first 6 weeks at 40/mgs....best cycle i ever did..peace..bran

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      • #4
        Thats a heavy first cycle Branny, something I would have done if I knew more years back. I would definitely go with 500mgs/week of Enanthate. From there, I would think about hitting some EQ at 300mgs/week. I would rather do that on a first cycle then adding dbols. PEACE! KIR

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        • #5
          500mg cyp or enan.a week and 300mg EQ a week for 12 weeks would work well and you should follow up with clomid post cycle.my first cycle was 400mg test a week and 20mg d-bol ed about 6 years ago and i crashed hard when i came off.WEIGHT!!!

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          • #6
            Good info too Weight. You know me bro and I just LOVE EQ over Deca anytime. I should have put down for post cycle clomid, ect.... but sometimes Im too damn single minded and dont take the time. Bad KIR BAD! LOL PEACE! KIR

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            • #7
              there is absolutely nothing wrong with a test only cycle. It's simple and yet the base of almost 90% of everycycle out there.
              That tells you something.. If your not impatient.. Test enanthate 2 shots a week and that's its... nothing fancy or complicated and it works .. Leave the heavier cycles for later.
              Plus it's easier on your system then having to take this because your taking that.

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              • #8
                that was only the begining of my first cycle...lol...i went nuts.thats what gave me gyno..i was dumb..

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by basskiller
                  there is absolutely nothing wrong with a test only cycle. It's simple and yet the base of almost 90% of everycycle out there.
                  That tells you something.. If your not impatient.. Test enanthate 2 shots a week and that's its... nothing fancy or complicated and it works .. Leave the heavier cycles for later.
                  Plus it's easier on your system then having to take this because your taking that.
                  I agree with the 1 compound at a time procedure. At least this way you'll know how your body responds, so when you do start stacking later you'll know "somewhat" what compounds gave you what sides

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bransun
                    that was only the begining of my first cycle...lol...i went nuts.thats what gave me gyno..i was dumb..
                    Now you know what sides to expect from the "test" you used bro. was it cyp.. or enan.. that gave you the gyno.. and did you pct..?

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                    • #11
                      I don't like the concept of test only. Go with a low-dose test/anabolic cycle for a first one. I'd try 200mg test enth / 300mg EQ for 10-12 weeks. I firmly believe in giving yourself a chance to find out whether you can get great gains from lower doses of test.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by New_Mass
                        Now you know what sides to expect from the "test" you used bro. was it cyp.. or enan.. that gave you the gyno.. and did you pct..?
                        it was enan....i had no clue i was getting gyno..i always had lumps since i was younger...it was so long ago that i dont remember if i did PCT....I know i kept almot 90% of my gains though..every single test i do gives me gyno now..sucks..hope arimidex works...

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