The Anabolic Window(catch it!)

[New_Mass]

The anabolic window is the time period after intense training. It's the period of time where physique building can be successful or unsuccessful depending on this window being fed by a sufficient supply of protein and carbohydrates. So the question is if this window is caught what is the best source of protien and carbs to be used along with your on going cycle?

[Stonecold54]

Re: The Anabolic Window(catch it!)

Originally posted by New_Mass
The anabolic window is the time period after intense training. It's the period of time where physique building can be successful or unsuccessful depending on this window being fed by a sufficient supply of protein and carbohydrates. So the question is if this window is caught what is the best source of protien and carbs to be used along with your on going cycle?

I find that a well balanced meal is best. I have tried all the "supplements" out there but I find best right after a workout is to drink my carb drink to replace what I lost in my muscles and liver, suck down a quick protein shake for good measure and then just eat my normal meals. getting calories is more important for me than specific types of calories.

[Shibby]

Re: Re: The Anabolic Window(catch it!)

Originally posted by stonecold54
I getting calories is more important for me than specific types of calories.

I just wanted to point this out for any new up and comers that he said ME. What works for one dosn't always work for anotther. It tends to be very misunderstood that it's all about calories not where you get them from. Starting out you want to get in a good habit of getting them from the right place or you will never learn how to get great results.

[prolangtum]

Glycogen replenishment and protein synthesis is highest 4 hours after working out. Glut4 receptors in muscles are the most sensitive the first hour or so after a workout. What this means is that you want to cram in a solid protein and plenty of carbs in this first hour. Although glycogen will be replenished faster will sugary carbs, any carbs will do the job really. Even slow burning carbs such as oatmeal. The only reason why you would not want to use a slow burning carb, is if your doing twice daily workouts, than replenishment is best done ASAP.

So basically, get whatever carbs and protein source you like in that first hour, be it slow burning carbs or complex. But your thinking "Prolangtum, dont we want a huge insulin spike? Hence the rationale of using exogenous insulin" Well, would you be suprised if I told you that a powerbar raises your insulin as much as 15ius of humalog? So why cant we gain mass with a powerbar instead of insulin? Even the quickest acting insulin like humalog has a sustained action, whereas the insulin spike from a powerbar last for a matter of minutes.

[Stonecold54]

Re: Re: Re: The Anabolic Window(catch it!)

Originally posted by Shibby
I just wanted to point this out for any new up and comers that he said ME. What works for one dosn't always work for anotther. It tends to be very misunderstood that it's all about calories not where you get them from. Starting out you want to get in a good habit of getting them from the right place or you will never learn how to get great results.

yes good point shibby, I have learned this from my own body over years of training. I eat very healthy so I don't really need a lot of the extras that guys take in.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Glycogen replenishment and protein synthesis is highest 4 hours after working out. Glut4 receptors in muscles are the most sensitive the first hour or so after a workout. What this means is that you want to cram in a solid protein and plenty of carbs in this first hour. Although glycogen will be replenished faster will sugary carbs, any carbs will do the job really. Even slow burning carbs such as oatmeal. The only reason why you would not want to use a slow burning carb, is if your doing twice daily workouts, than replenishment is best done ASAP.

So basically, get whatever carbs and protein source you like in that first hour, be it slow burning carbs or complex. But your thinking "Prolangtum, dont we want a huge insulin spike? Hence the rationale of using exogenous insulin" Well, would you be suprised if I told you that a powerbar raises your insulin as much as 15ius of humalog? So why cant we gain mass with a powerbar instead of insulin? Even the quickest acting insulin like humalog has a sustained action, whereas the insulin spike from a powerbar last for a matter of minutes.

good post Pro. I can definetly tell the difference the next day if I don't take enough high glycemic carbs in after the workout. I don't feel as replenished in my state of mind. but if I do things right after a workout I feel good to go the next day.

[space mountain]

good post and info bros

[getsome]

I hear all the science of taking carbs and protein right after a workout. But I have seen good gains by switching to a protein only drink right after I work out. Just my 2 cents

[Lmg2701]

This is sometimes over looked when you get caught up in your cycle. If you don't eat you don't grow, that point can't be stressed enough. Especially post workout. A workout just doesn't feel complete unless you through in that meal right after.