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[HollywoodJoe]

Well, I never thought I would be here. This is my first post after reading several others. Hell, this is my first time at this site. It's pretty big and helpful....the site that is! Gutterminds. I have been weight training for about a year now with off the shelf supplements such as Cell-tech, proteins and just the basic sh*t.

My buddy bought me a cycle(12 week) of Dianabol (D-BOL), kind of as a gag gift. I never thought about using an anabolic steroid before, but for the past couple of days I have been thinking about going ahead and taking my body to that next level. I have read a little and searched around for everything I would need to purchase and consume during my FIRST cycle, but am still a little out of the loop. I have D-Bol and know I will need Arimidex or Liquidex for side effects in the future, maybe even clomiphene citrate. But am not quite sure what else I would need to take along with my FIRST cycle! I always thought cats that took steroids just took that only. I didn't know that they also took a variety of other things and that's where I need some help. Basicallly, if it was your first cycle EVER and you were going to take your body to that next level and you already have the cycle of D-BOL, what else would you incorporate in the 12 week cycle?
Thanks for your time and thoughts
everyone.........KIA ORA

[trapattack]

add some test to the dbol and heres your 1st cycle

wk 1-4
30-40mg dbol ed
1-10
500mg test wk

yes you will need an anti e and either clomid or nolva to run post cycle. you're learning but have a little ways to go before starting a cycle, just read up everything you can and you'll be ready

[Mudge]

Test is best, good luck.

[Lmg2701]

Bro you need to do some more research before you put anything in your body. Do some searches for "side effects" and "first cycle" there's tons of info on this site. Plan you out a cycle and them come back and ask questions so we can fine tune it.

[LARGELI]

definitely research more bro! if you are even considering a 12 week cycle of dbol you have not even begun to research.

lucky for you there are a lot of knowledgeable guys around boards like this one who will lead you in thye right direction and willing to help you as long as you are willing to help yourself.

do you know what brand dbol you have, what strength it is?
1 dbol pill could be as little as 2.5 mg and as much as 50 mg. so its very important you know what you have.

[spidey]

Dbol is what is known as a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid (17-AAS). this is a common theme in oral steroids as this modification renders the steroid "liver proof" so to speak. It can't be oxidized and degraded by the liver so more is available for the body to utilize. However, this modification also makes the steroids somewhat liver toxic, some more than others. For the toxicity reason, most people will recommend that you not take an oral steroid like dbol for more than 6 to 8 weeks. Toxicity and side effects are dosage related so the less you take, the less the risk.

A good first cycle would be 500mg ew test enanthate or cypionate for 10 to 12 weeks along with 25mg dbol ed for the first 6 weeks. You will need to have at least a 3 month supply of nolvadex in hand in case gyno rears it's ugly head and some liquidex or arimidex (0.5mg ed) to keep the bloat down and reduce your chances of needing the nolva. You will need either clomid or nolvadex+HCG for post cycle therapy to jumpstart your HPTA and avoid the crash.

Stick around a while and read, read, read before you consider doing this.

[BeastLt12]

yes more research is needed but dont let that keep you from asking questions. there is a ton of very knowledgable people here who will not only share info, but experiences also. TAKE YOUR TIME, and good luck bro

[bigchub22]

yup i know the anxious feeling bro but just read read read and ask ask ask till you know for sure whats goin in your body and how its gonna effect your body...just my 2 cc's ....peace..chub

[tierhoggg]

h/w - listen to what is been said. i feel your pain cause im knew also. back when i decided to get into the candy, i bought (hope i dont affend anyone) steroids 101. it gave me some info to go with and put together some ideas. put them on the board and let the vets break it down for you. the material will help you understand what is being talked about, and give you ideas of what to use. one thing that will help when you do put something out, is give as much info on yourself as you can. like training, body weight/fat, history w/aas. this will help the vets when they look at your cycle you post.

[HollywoodJoe]

Thanks for all of your advice guys. I am thankfull for all of the replies. kia ora

[LARGELI]

Originally posted by HollywoodJoe
Thanks for all of your advice guys. I am thankfull for all of the replies. kia ora

keep asking questions bro.....we were all clueless at one time. you came to the right place!

[New_Mass]

Also use the "search button" at the top and type in what ever your looking for , it will help too bro..