Second cycle help

[needmuscle]

Getting ready to start 2nd cycle in a few weeks. Will be running Eq at 500mg/wk and Cyp at 750mg/wk. Was thinking of using some prop and dbol to jump start the cycle. Any suggestions on the amt of Cyp and for how long (assuming 3 weeks). ALso, suggestions on the amount of dbol and how long to run. (haven't used dbol before). Thanks for the help.:D BTW. really great board. Lots of useful information. Been looking a while.. first time to start a thread!

[woodard]

Age, stats, last cycle?

[needmuscle]

35y/o 6 2" 200lbs. not sure bf, but think its around 11-12%. Last cycle (my first) wasn't well planned but it started off with 400 mg eq wks 1-10
400 mg sust wks 4-10
600 mg eq wks 10-16
600 mg enan wks 10-16
300 mg prop wks 10-16

[trapattack]

bro i really dont like anything about that cycle, im assuming your looking to gain some lean mass here. id run something like this

1-4
50mg prop ed
1-14
600mg eq wk
600mg enan wk


you could add some winny in there from wks 10-16 also

[jyzza]

You sound like you already have the cyp....

You can get away w/ this setup...

1-4 100mg Prop EOD
1-12 600mg EQ
1-12 600mg Test Cyp

[woodard]

1-4 dbol 35mg ed
1-4 Prop 100mg eod
1-12 Cyp 600 wk
1-12 EQ 600 wk

Just my 2cc's.

[woodard]

Remember your PCT (clomid, HCG, etc) and have some Nolva on hand. Proviron if you can get it would be helpful.

[Lmg2701]

Any of the three listed above, you choose.

[needmuscle]

Yes, already have the Cyp. I'll try and get some Prop as suggested. Already have the PCT on hand. Thanks for the input.. Really appreciate it.

[needmuscle]

bros. have one more question. Aren't Cyp and Enan close in terms of gains and retention ability? I can get my hands on some Enan, should I switch mid-cycle to the Enan from the Cyp?

Sorry for all the questions. still lots to learn.

[trapattack]

yes cyp and enanthate are very similar, i wouldnt worry about changing esters just stick with the cyp

[Lmg2701]

Half lives are a couple days different. Not much though.

[magnusson]

I'd either jumpstart with prop or Dbol, I don't see much need for both cause by the time dbols done test is fully kicked in or likewise with prop.

I've personally found that If I frontload to much aas the sides are worse at the beginning and also throughout the cycle.

[needmuscle]

Thanks. I thinks I'll try with the dbol jump start. I've read about front-loading on the eq. Any opinons? Thanks again for all the help bros. You guys are great.