cycle question

[JF1]

Ok. First my stats: 23, 5'10", 170lbs about 10%bf. I'm going to start my second cycle to try to put on some mass. I've previously done a 6week cycle of Deca w/ littl gains. That was about 2yrs ago. I have also done a 1-Ad/4-AD cycle (yes prohormone) that I actually gained and kept 7lbs off of.

I'm interested in a Sust cycle mainly becuase it is readily available, and I want to do a test cycle. Planning on a Monday/Friday shot 250 each for 10 weeks.

Now heres the big question......I know alot of guys use D-bol to get them out of the gate for the first 4weeks.......not available to me. I am considering using M 1T (I know another PH) for the first 4 weeks to get me out of the gate....just something easy like possibly 10mg ed for the first 4weeks. Or 10mg ed first two and evaluate....maybe bump to 20mg for the next two. Is this a good idea? or even worth considering??

Next question, and this is even more important....What type of OTC post cycle is there??? Is there anything out there that I can purchase either online or OTC?? I con't want to lose all of my gains.

Thanks

[Chadd77]

As far as PCT goes there are "research chemicals" that you can purchase for your rats. Check the board sponsors.

[Thor]

Also, if you dont want to go with liquid products, you can use a search engine to find most things at overseas pharmacies that require no script, as long as you stay away from scheduled items you shouldn't have any trouble, thats what I do.

Also, if you still have access to the Deca, I would stack it with the Sust.

[Lmg2701]

Sust. dose looks fine. About the M1T I've personally never used it and I don't like to comment on things I haven't used but from what I've read I'd say you could probably use it to jump start your cycle. I'd pick up some products for you liver though (milk thistle, ALA) because it seems to be rough on the liver. As far as OTC PCT products....I wouldn't go there. Go to www.lionnutrition.com or www.researchkits.com and pick up some clomid. And you didnt gain anything off of Deca for 6 weeks for obvious reasons. By the time you got off it had just started to kick in. Read up more bro., lots of good info here.

[BLOODPUMP]

Bro, fuk that prohomone shit........if you cant get any dbol to kick start that cycle,the next best thing would be to frontload the test..........but thats just me........BLOODPUMP..........

[JF1]

Originally posted by Lmg2701
Sust. dose looks fine. About the M1T I've personally never used it and I don't like to comment on things I haven't used but from what I've read I'd say you could probably use it to jump start your cycle. I'd pick up some products for you liver though (milk thistle, ALA) because it seems to be rough on the liver. As far as OTC PCT products....I wouldn't go there. Go to www.lionnutrition.com or www.researchkits.com and pick up some clomid. And you didnt gain anything off of Deca for 6 weeks for obvious reasons. By the time you got off it had just started to kick in. Read up more bro., lots of good info here.

I know why I didn't have any huge gains from the Deca, but I have read up and done my homework since then. This site is great, and that is why I'm asking the questions. Thanks for the input. I had read somewhere on this site, that the M 1T would possibly be a good "out of the gate" starter for a test cycle but not sure where. That's actually where I got the idea. If I were to do the M 1t I would def. get some milk thistle.

Anyone else wanna chime in on the use of M 1T w/ a Sust cycle?

[woodard]

I would prefer to just front load the Sus @1000mg wk for the first two weeks.

[Lmg2701]

Originally posted by BLOODPUMP
Bro, fuk that prohomone shit........if you cant get any dbol to kick start that cycle,the next best thing would be to frontload the test..........but thats just me........BLOODPUMP..........

I thought it was a PH when I first saw it but look into it more, it's not.

[spidey]

Originally posted by BLOODPUMP
Bro, fuk that prohomone shit........if you cant get any dbol to kick start that cycle,the next best thing would be to frontload the test..........but thats just me........BLOODPUMP..........

LOL, what is it EXACTLY about M-1-T that makes it a prohormone? What does it convert to? Ignorance just kills me.

M-1-T is NOT a prohormone. Neither is 1-test for that matter. They are both real steroids. The fact that they take advantage of a legal loophole does not make them any less a steroid. Be patient, they will be illegal very soon. Will that legitamize them enough for you?

Before 1-test was marketed as an anabolic and when other anabolics were legal, 1-test was measured as 3 times as androgenic and 4 times as anabolic as test.

This is a Journal of Organic Chemistry article from the early '60's. The authours had no interest in marketing anything so there was no incentive to fudge the research.

To distrust something based soley on it's legal status makes absolutely no rational sense.