menu to select from for next cycle

[muscledoc]

HEy bro's. Finishing up a first cycle of sus/primo/prop wih GH. Thanks to you guys it has been a great cycle with good gains and few sides.


I'm geting gear for the next cycle and I have access to cyp/eth/prop/primo/sus/deca/and dbol.

Can you guys help me put together a good second cycle of 12 weeks with any of these. I want to increase my strength and get a little harder and tighter looking, but more size is not that important.

Appreciate any help/

Thanks

[Stonecold54]

Re: menu to select from for next cycle

Originally posted by muscledoc
HEy bro's. Finishing up a first cycle of sus/primo/prop wih GH. Thanks to you guys it has been a great cycle with good gains and few sides.


I'm geting gear for the next cycle and I have access to cyp/eth/prop/primo/sus/deca/and dbol.

Can you guys help me put together a good second cycle of 12 weeks with any of these. I want to increase my strength and get a little harder and tighter looking, but more size is not that important.

Appreciate any help/

Thanks

what doses did you run with your first cycle and how long? if you had success with that cycle I would either up the dose of one of the compounds or all of them and run the same thing?

[muscledoc]

Stone:

I ran 250 sus 2x week, 200 prop 3x week 200 primo 2xweek with the sus. Planned on running 8 weeks but I have enough stuff for another week and a half. Running gh ed for 5days and just added 1000mcgB12ed. Will be running 200mg cyp once a week instead of PCT as HRT.

I am in my 50's and this is my irst true cycle. Dabbled before on and off. Results have been astounding. BF down 2%. Weight remained the same. Strength through the ceiling. Bench went from 155 for 10 to 245 for ten with room for more reps. All bodyparts with similar gains. I look and feel better than I did in my thirties.
This shit is great. Will have doc run tests after about 4 weeks only on cyp to check for baseline values.

what do you think I should increase or should I up all of the stuff. Just want to change from prop to cyp or eth. Too many shots to keep track of. Running out of sites.

Thanks:D

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by muscledoc
Stone:

I ran 250 sus 2x week, 200 prop 3x week 200 primo 2xweek with the sus. Planned on running 8 weeks but I have enough stuff for another week and a half. Running gh ed for 5days and just added 1000mcgB12ed. Will be running 200mg cyp once a week instead of PCT as HRT.

I am in my 50's and this is my irst true cycle. Dabbled before on and off. Results have been astounding. BF down 2%. Weight remained the same. Strength through the ceiling. Bench went from 155 for 10 to 245 for ten with room for more reps. All bodyparts with similar gains. I look and feel better than I did in my thirties.
This shit is great. Will have doc run tests after about 4 weeks only on cyp to check for baseline values.

what do you think I should increase or should I up all of the stuff. Just want to change from prop to cyp or eth. Too many shots to keep track of. Running out of sites.

Thanks:D

so you ran 500mg of sust, 600mg of prop and 400mg of primo. I am just curious did you say that you didn't gain any weight, you just dropped bodyfat. next cycle I would keep the primo and use cyp or enanthate like you stated. I am not sure how much test you want to run since you already ran 1100mg per week.

[muscledoc]

So are you saying run the cyp and primo and forget everything else? What doses would you run in that case?

[prolangtum]

I say something like

Prop Weeks 1-2, 11-12-100mgs eod
Cyp Weeks 1-10 600mgs
Deca Weeks 1-10 500mgs (1g week 1)

[muscledoc]

What is the purpose of the prop weeks 11 & 12?
and would you run Nolv or something else like Letro for anti-e

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by muscledoc
What is the purpose of the prop weeks 11 & 12?
and would you run Nolv or something else like Letro for anti-e

in pro's cycle the prop in weeks 11 and 12 are giving time for the deca to clear your system to jump on PCT but it your case I would ignore it since you are on HRT you will not need to worry about coming off. just start up your HRT when your cycle is done. I would have some type of anti-e on hand. did you use anything with your first cycle?

[muscledoc]

I used nolv and proviron ed after week 5

I assume the Deca is 2x wk and the cyp is 3xwk. Is that right?

[prolangtum]

oops, missed HRT, gotta read closer next time

[muscledoc]

Thanks guys. What would you do for anti-e. Lotro? Nolv? Provirion? Clomid? HCG?

[prolangtum]

letrozole

[muscledoc]

Thanks Pro

Thats 2.5mg eod correct. Should I start it right at the beginnging of the cycle or wait a few weeks like I did with my current cycle. I really appreciate your help