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  • cyp or enth??

    Anybody have a preference for cyp over enth, or vice versa, or are they both pretty much the same?

  • #2
    pretty much the same. I hear that Enanthate is the longer esther though, so I'd say enan if u only want to shoot wkly cyp if u can shoot often.
    This is all from what i've read of course:)

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    • #3
      I've used enth before with good results, but I would like to try cyp next! They in all are pretty much the same

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      • #4
        they are almost the same, best if injected twice a wk, but 1 time a wk is fing

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DiamondCutCows
          pretty much the same. I hear that Enanthate is the longer esther though, so I'd say enan if u only want to shoot wkly cyp if u can shoot often.
          This is all from what i've read of course:)
          Actually, cyp is the slightly longer ester but still, they are similar enough that it doesn't matter.

          Enanthate (7 carbon linear ester) has a half life of 10.5 days and cypionate (8 carbon nonlinear ester) has a half life of 12 days.

          Both should be shot every 3 to 4 days.

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          • #6
            loved cyp no problems but when i used enanthate damn what pain !!

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            • #7
              BOTH ARE BASICALLY THE SAME I THINK THE CYP STAYS IN YOUR SYSMTEM LONGER.. GENERAL STALKER

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              • #8
                Really weird, cyp always hurt like hell. Never, never, never had ANY pain with BTG Enanthate. BB

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                • #9
                  The heavier the ester chain, the greater is its percentage of the total weight. In the case of testosterone enanthate, 250mg of esterified steroid (testosterone enanthate) is equal to only 180mg of free testosterone. 70mgs out of each 250mg injection is the weight of the ester. If we wanted to be really picky, we could consider enanthate slightly MORE potent than cypionate (I know this goes against popular thinking) as its ester chain contains one less carbon atom (therefore taking up a slightly smaller percentage of total weight). Propionate would of course come out on top of the three, releasing a measurable (but not significant) amount more testosterone per injection than cypionate or enanthate.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by candle25
                    The heavier the ester chain, the greater is its percentage of the total weight. In the case of testosterone enanthate, 250mg of esterified steroid (testosterone enanthate) is equal to only 180mg of free testosterone. 70mgs out of each 250mg injection is the weight of the ester. If we wanted to be really picky, we could consider enanthate slightly MORE potent than cypionate (I know this goes against popular thinking) as its ester chain contains one less carbon atom (therefore taking up a slightly smaller percentage of total weight). Propionate would of course come out on top of the three, releasing a measurable (but not significant) amount more testosterone per injection than cypionate or enanthate.
                    .....Yeah, whatever he said:rofl:

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                    • #11
                      Just simple math bro.

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                      • #12
                        was happy with cyp on the last run......but finding a much more effective run with ethan this time around....could be because it is qv.......BLOODPUMP.......

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                        • #13
                          Drug Half-Life:

                          Arimidex 3 days
                          Clenbuterol 1.5 days
                          Anavar 9 hours
                          Stanozolol (oral) 9 hours
                          Methyltest 4 days
                          Stanozolol (injectable) 1 day
                          Clomid 5 days
                          Dianabol 4.5 hours
                          Testosterone Suspension 1 day

                          Here are the half-lives for any of the following steroid esters:

                          Ester Half-Life

                          Formate 1.5 days
                          Acetate 3 days
                          Propionate 4.5 days
                          Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
                          Butyrate 6 days
                          Valerate 7.5 days
                          Hexanoate 9 days
                          Caproate 9 days
                          Isocaproate 9 days
                          Heptanoate 10.5 days
                          Enanthate 10.5 days
                          Octanoate 12 days
                          Cypionate 12 days
                          Nonanoate 13.5 days
                          Decanoate 15 days
                          Undecanoate 16.5 days

                          For all you sust lovers out there note that the following esters and amounts are used:
                          30mg Propionate
                          55mg Phenylpropionate
                          65mg Caproate
                          100mg Decanoate

                          Testonon uses the following amounts:
                          30mg Propionate
                          55mg Phenylpropionate
                          65mg Isocaproate
                          100mg Enanthate

                          Note that sust and testonon are in fact different in one respect. Also note that the longest acting ester in
                          these has a half-life of 15 days. As Andy noted previously, 1/2 the half-life should be the optimal point to
                          begin therapy, thus 1 month (minimum) with testonon and sust.

                          I would like to point out another fact that arimidex has a half-life of 3 days. Thus an everyday
                          administration is not neccessary

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