How To Get Rid Of Gyno With Letro (Femara)

[Bouncer]

Yea i think ill give it a shot. From what i've read on this thread, using letro will most likely cripple my sex drive while on it. Does it take a while for your sex drive to bounce back? i just want to be sure im not going to regret it and have a horrible sex drive for here on out...

never really killed my sex drive.

[laxxin69]

Did you just use letro? or use some test booster at the same time?

[Bouncer]

just letro.

all that test booster crap is the cause of all this shit.

read through the thread, everyone is either using a so called "test booster" or pro hormone garbage. it will only cause you problems.

[laxxin69]

Cool. So i shouldnt have any problems with it. And hypothetically, even if my sex drive did go down while using it, it would come back after i was finished with the letro right?

[Bouncer]

it would come back after i was finished with the letro right?

YES

[laxxin69]

ok... I am leaning toward trying arimidex first... It will come in 2 mg tabs. Any thoughts on how many milligrams i should take daily of this?

[Cornfed]

just read all 9 pages. awsome awsome thread. :thumup:

i went on a cycle of mdrol last november. developed symptoms of gyno the first 3-4 days. i stoped the cycle and picked up some novedex that day. needless to say it didnt work. i did a little homework, and wound up doing a cycle of letro last month. followed by a cycle of novedex. i noticed a reduction in lump size (little larger than a pea on my left, and almost nothing on my right), but its not gone. once i finish up with the novedex im on now. ill probaby go clean for a month or so. then pick up some more letro, and try the cycle outlined in the therad.

.25-.50cc of letro per day till its gone. then either take novedex, or more letro at .25cc once a day, to every other day.

i do have two realy dumb questions. (1) how are yall taking 40mg of novedex when one cap is 60mg? breaking the cap open? (2) it seems everyone (including me) has is worse on their left. any reason why?

i realy hope i can get this cleared up, going under the knife sucks.

the bouncer, and the art of war. yall rock!!!

[Bouncer]

just read all 9 pages. awsome awsome thread. :thumup:

i went on a cycle of mdrol last november. developed symptoms of gyno the first 3-4 days. i stoped the cycle and picked up some novedex that day. needless to say it didnt work. i did a little homework, and wound up doing a cycle of letro last month. followed by a cycle of novedex. i noticed a reduction in lump size (little larger than a pea on my left, and almost nothing on my right), but its not gone. once i finish up with the novedex im on now. ill probaby go clean for a month or so. then pick up some more letro, and try the cycle outlined in the therad.

.25-.50cc of letro per day till its gone. then either take novedex, or more letro at .25cc once a day, to every other day.

i do have two realy dumb questions. (1) how are yall taking 40mg of novedex when one cap is 60mg? breaking the cap open? (2) it seems everyone (including me) has is worse on their left. any reason why?

i realy hope i can get this cleared up, going under the knife sucks.

the bouncer, and the art of war. yall rock!!!

no caps. its liquid. Tamoxifen 50mL 20mg/mL

[Cornfed]

no caps. its liquid. Tamoxifen 50mL 20mg/mL

ah, well im officialy a dud :retard:. i thought it was novedex xt by gaspari nutrition.

do you see anything else in my game plan that needs tweeked?

[Bouncer]

ah, well im officialy a dud :retard:. i thought it was novedex xt by gaspari nutrition.

do you see anything else in my game plan that needs tweeked?

no bro, we are not talking about supplements. none of that shit will do anything.

real nolvadex and letro will take care of your gyno.

you really dont even need the nolv as long as you come off the letro slow.

[Cornfed]

no bro, we are not talking about supplements. none of that shit will do anything.

real nolvadex and letro will take care of your gyno.

you really dont even need the nolv as long as you come off the letro slow.

got ya. i have just always heard of that as tamoxifen. one of the joys of being new and ignorant about this...

[Darkstar]

Written by C_Bino on AR.

I am posting this thread to help answer all of the questions regarding gyno prevention and reversal, the use of letrozole and other anti-e’s. I will go over everything in very simple easy to understand language. Also we are talking about estrogen gyno here, not progesterone (but using letro will stop progesterone related problems as well since it inhibits all estrogen anyways). Progesterone gyno will be enlargement of your nipple area, the actual aereola, not a lump under it.


To first understand why you are doing what you are doing I am going to go over a few things and a few definitions:

SERM – Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.
Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
AI – Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect AI’s prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.
Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gyno we are interested in Letro.

Letro and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gyno as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running letro to prevent gyno:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an AI. Letro will be the most powerful AI you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the letro approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that letro takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don’t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gyno after using letro for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run letro there is absolutely no need to run another AI or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if letro is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolva will only take away from the effectiveness of letro.

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gyno. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently. Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gyno…let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR GYNO. If you are running nolva as your anti-e and start to develop gyno than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gyno?
If you have developed gyno you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another AI or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely.

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Im currently on a cycle of Havoc (epistane), but have noticed i may be developing some gyno although i have no sensativity or lumps, just feel like im developing man boobs. Anyways, how should i run letro during cycle (im currently on my second week of a four week cycle) to help reduce/prevent the gyno sides? Im running my cycle at 20/30/40/40 and im on my second week, meaning im about to bump it up to 40. Help?

[Letro Man]

waking up to day 28 of Letro . dose is steady at .5 a day. I know this stuff takes a long time to fully suppress all estrogen, but the lump on my left side I can hardly even feel today. the lump on the right side feels like it has shrunk some BUT not much. not sure if its dry joints from letro but my knees the past few days have felt like those of a 70 yr old. as far as libido issues go I canceled my date this past Saturday night. not complaining but I'll most likely drop my dose to .25 in the next few days and keep it there for another month.

[Darkstar]

no bro, we are not talking about supplements. none of that shit will do anything.

real nolvadex and letro will take care of your gyno.

you really dont even need the nolv as long as you come off the letro slow.

Hey Bouncer i was wondering if you can help me with my situation.

Im currently on my third week of a 30mg cycle of havoc (epistane). I began to notice flared nipples and a little lump behind my left nipple. I have read all 9 pages of this informative post but cant figure out how to dose the Letro. Should i continue to finish my cycle and then begin Letro once i am finished? or should i begin now and continue finishing my cycle? What do you recommend. And how should i dose the letro?

Also i had another question; While on letro, is it okay to take a natural testosterone booster (such as Stoked or diesel test hardcore) considering libido sides of this substance?

[Bouncer]

Hey Bouncer i was wondering if you can help me with my situation.

Im currently on my third week of a 30mg cycle of havoc (epistane). I began to notice flared nipples and a little lump behind my left nipple. I have read all 9 pages of this informative post but cant figure out how to dose the Letro. Should i continue to finish my cycle and then begin Letro once i am finished? or should i begin now and continue finishing my cycle? What do you recommend. And how should i dose the letro?

Also i had another question; While on letro, is it okay to take a natural testosterone booster (such as Stoked or diesel test hardcore) considering libido sides of this substance?

if you had read all 9 pages you would see the same theme over and over. these so called "natural test boosters" and supplements like havoc are the main cause of almost everyone in this threads gyno problem. dont know when you guys are going to get it. real steroids are more effective and cause less sides. fuck these wannabe supplements.

as for your question get on letro now. .5mgs per day for a month and then .25mgs for a month.

if it were me i would drop any and all supplements that effect hormone levels, they are pure garbage.