A Closer Look at Trenbolone

[Bluesteel]

hey dude i was also thinkin of doin a tren/test cycle aswell however after i was advised against it by people on this forum i did alot more research on tren and realised its not worth the sides for beginners like us however this is jus my opinion but these guys no more than we do so i would listen to em they got experience behind em good luck with your cycle:)

[CrankinSteiN]

I have to agree that it sounds like you should do more research before starting this cycle but I'm pretty sure you have already decided and will do it anyway so I'll say this....

It is a good thing that you did ask questions and that bouncer got you to put test with this cycle... Also I would say if your set on doing the tren then stick to just that and test for now, no reason to complicate things... I assume it is tren ace so start with 75 - 100mg EOD and run the test around 400 - 500mg per week.

[The Jerk]

I definitely understand, which is why I am asking the questions. There is a lot of information on this site and others, but to a "newbie" some of it can go over your head and I'd rather ask the questions, than just assume based on what i've read. All of the stuff i've read today makes a lot more sense now with having my questions answered. Thats what this site is here for, right?

Btw I have done tren before and equipose, but didnt have anyone to explain anything to me. I didnt have any adverse effects, but I didnt get great results either. Thats why I wanted to do it right this time and ask the questions 1st!

[Pumpdogg]

Bro.. TEST ONLY ON YOUR FIRST CYCLE.. PERIOD.. It just makes sense to see how you repsond to test before you start adding in other drugs on top of it.. Also stacking drugs also will add more negative side effects if you are going to get them.. The more is merrier approach does not apply in this regard..

In my opinion you dont need to be messing with gear at this time.. You are asking basic questions that one should be studying up on themselves, understanding the pharmacology of each compound and then learning how to safely cycle them and in future cycles stack them..

Steroids are drugs, and they have consequences even when used with respect.. Read and learn, nothing wrong with asking questions, however what you are asking you should already know before you start down this journey..

It erks me to no end with this type of mentality.. Someone does just what you would have done.. cycle tren only, be all screwed up and then run to the doctor and tell them I took steroids and now Im a mess.. This just aids the publics jaded opinion on gear..

I digress

[The Jerk]

thanks. anything else i should do with 'em

[Bouncer]

has d-bol, winny, and test - asked which kind. Looks like there are 3 listed here. Which test would be the best?

go for something simple test enath or cyp. once a week shot.

[The Jerk]

has d-bol, winny, and test - asked which kind. Looks like there are 3 listed here. Which test would be the best?

[Bouncer]

in that case, i will wait. thanks.
Do you have any alternatives - otc?

nothing OTC is on the same level as steroids. but you have to make sure you know what your doing and why you must combine certain drugs to keep the sides to a minimum.

[The Jerk]

in that case, i will wait. thanks.
Do you have any alternatives - otc?

[Bouncer]

just got the tren from a friend that didnt want it. 2 late to put in another order was hoping to start this week to be in shape for vacation in 3 wks. any otc that would mimic test for ex the anabolic precursurs they sell online and in the health shops.

again thanks

no. im telling you right now, dont do a tren only cycle. you will regret it. it will shut down your natural test levels down hard. be prepared to not have sex for 5 months... also be prepared for the very real possibility of lactating nipples from the progesterone side effects.

but dont listen to me. listen you your friend that didnt want it.. :disagree:

[The Jerk]

just got the tren from a friend that didnt want it. 2 late to put in another order was hoping to start this week to be in shape for vacation in 3 wks. any otc that would mimic test for ex the anabolic precursurs they sell online and in the health shops.

again thanks

[Bouncer]

wil it just not work without the stak or is it just not worth it in your eyes to take alone? im just starting and not really trying to get too big too fast. just want to see some gains in mass, but mostly hardness and definition.
What should i use as pct or even during cycle - seen clomid and novadex
thanks

if your just starting tren is too strong to be honest.

but the reason test always needs to be run in a cycle is because steroids shut down you natural test levels. tren does this also. but if you dont replace the test shutdown with synthetic test your hormone levels will be a mess. tren only will have you in a high progesterone/ androgen state. many side effects etc..

run test only. would be a much better cycle for a first timer.

[The Jerk]

wil it just not work without the stak or is it just not worth it in your eyes to take alone? im just starting and not really trying to get too big too fast. just want to see some gains in mass, but mostly hardness and definition.
What should i use as pct or even during cycle - seen clomid and novadex
thanks

[Bouncer]

Hey guys. Im new to the site and just got qv tren 75. I've been reading some stuff and need some advice. Some say to take it alone, some stak with win some stak with eq or test. i just want to gain a few lbs and cut a little. now im 5'8" 180. any suggestions for cycling and for pct

definitely needs to be stacked with test.

[The Jerk]

Hey guys. Im new to the site and just got qv tren 75. I've been reading some stuff and need some advice. Some say to take it alone, some stak with win some stak with eq or test. i just want to gain a few lbs and cut a little. now im 5'8" 180. any suggestions for cycling and for pct