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    I always here the "dangers" of long term use with steroids. i've looked and looked and although i know there is no definitive answer, i cant even find a ballpark. In your guys opinion what would that be, 5 years 10 years, 20? `basically if i run a cycle (500mg T a week) on and off 6 months out of the year (not consecutive), at what point would i be at "long term use" any feedback or opinion would be appreciated thank you--

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    HEAR**

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    • #3
      you gotta figure, if you are on HRT from a doc you are on for life. as long as you arent going crazy doeses and harsh drugs you should be fine.

      i have ran test none stop for over 2 years a couple years ago. think i will do it again too.

      take way to many steps back comming off IMO.

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      • #4
        When do you run nolva when your on for that long

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Better2Bbigger View Post
          When do you run nolva when your on for that long
          You mean when you finally come off? Only reason you would run it while on is to prevent gyno

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          • #6
            Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
            you gotta figure, if you are on HRT from a doc you are on for life. as long as you arent going crazy doeses and harsh drugs you should be fine.

            i have ran test none stop for over 2 years a couple years ago. think i will do it again too.

            take way to many steps back comming off IMO.
            Im running 150mg a week and dont plan on coming off. Occasionally (once of twice per year) Im going to up my dose to 250mg and add another mild compound. Will I be fine long term you think? What is considered crazy doses?

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            • #7
              If you had slight gyno once (hard lump) and it went away using letro and through couple of cycles you discovered you're gyno prone is it wise to be considering long term use? Or even never come off at all? Let's say for a man in early 30's :)

              Thanx.

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              • #8
                regular bloodwork my brother... if it comes back with high levels then you will be told to come off for a while. eat clean, dont drink etc. its a lifestyle now and not just another juicer cycle.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AllDay View Post
                  Im running 150mg a week and dont plan on coming off. Occasionally (once of twice per year) Im going to up my dose to 250mg and add another mild compound. Will I be fine long term you think? What is considered crazy doses?
                  crazy dosages are those similar to 12 week cycle dosages 400-750mg per week. TRT dosages are low as you know 150-250mg range is what ive seen and its considered aggressive. true trt is 200 every 2 weeks (depends on doc). what do you mean mild compound? anavar?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AllDay View Post
                    Im running 150mg a week and dont plan on coming off. Occasionally (once of twice per year) Im going to up my dose to 250mg and add another mild compound. Will I be fine long term you think? What is considered crazy doses?
                    crazy doses are 750mgs and much higher for years. 150mgs per week is just replacing natty test levels.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vinnie1938 View Post
                      If you had slight gyno once (hard lump) and it went away using letro and through couple of cycles you discovered you're gyno prone is it wise to be considering long term use? Or even never come off at all? Let's say for a man in early 30's :)

                      Thanx.
                      i would say its wise to run nolv with all your cycles to prevent estrogen type gyno.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jack tors View Post
                        regular bloodwork my brother... if it comes back with high levels then you will be told to come off for a while. eat clean, dont drink etc. its a lifestyle now and not just another juicer cycle.
                        The thing I still can't quite understand is if you were on TRT and were told to come off....would it be easier to recover if you were doing say 150mgs a week vs 250mgs a week?

                        My GUESS would be no because 150mgs a week is still shutting down your natty test right? Or am I wrong in my thinking? So based on that I've always wondered why if you make the commitment to TRT you wouldn't just do a more aggressive TRT like 250mgs every 10 days or something like that...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kdoggg View Post
                          The thing I still can't quite understand is if you were on TRT and were told to come off....would it be easier to recover if you were doing say 150mgs a week vs 250mgs a week?

                          My GUESS would be no because 150mgs a week is still shutting down your natty test right? Or am I wrong in my thinking? So based on that I've always wondered why if you make the commitment to TRT you wouldn't just do a more aggressive TRT like 250mgs every 10 days or something like that...
                          not sure about 2 low doses but i do know that if you were to run like 750mgs for a long time it would be harder to recover from 250mgs for a long time.

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                          • #14
                            Thinking about staying on for about 8 months (250mg every 5 days). Already been on for 6 months. It's the lowest dose I have ever ran before. Always 500+ per week in the past. Along with other compounds.

                            Any issues with running nolva for long periods?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                              Thinking about staying on for about 8 months (250mg every 5 days). Already been on for 6 months. It's the lowest dose I have ever ran before. Always 500+ per week in the past. Along with other compounds.

                              Any issues with running nolva for long periods?
                              dont think so, actually some health benefits to it. cholesterol etc.. i have run it 2 years straight in the past.

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