First Cycle of T-400 and Tren

[Michaeljubba]

First Real Cycle ever taken, did test for two months low cycle 250MM a week about a year ago.

Im 21, 5'10 150LB Flat and just started my new cycle this week.

I am very lost and what needs to be done during the cycle. I know i have to eat clean which i have been doing and taking 1.5% my body wieght in protien a day.

Im stating with 1/2 cc of t-400 and tren every three days for the first week then bumping up to a full cc of each once every week. till the cycle is through.

Any details on keeping the cycle clean and what needs to be taken after the cycle to hold what i have gained.

[Bouncer]

This is what I would do..

Tren can be harsh and come with many sides.

Test on the other hand has very easily controlled sides.

By running both together its very hard to know which is causing the sides and thus can get complicated trying to control them.

I would suggest you hold off on the tren until next cycle and run a test only cycle at 400mgs per week with adex at .25mgs EOD to control any estrogenic sides..

Run that cycle for 12 weeks at minimum, eat clean, train smart with weight you can control properly and incorporate a little cardio post workout to keep the body primed to utilize nutrients and optimized metabolism.

Follow that plan and in 12 weeks you will be very pleased.

[Michaeljubba]

I Stiil want to hold the trenn at atleast 1/2 cc. I want to cut while i still build mass. I understand this is hard but done correctly it is not impossible. I keep hearing Tren is dirty ????? If i could get more detail on this and how this isnt such a clean steroid like T-400, that would help my opinion. I have also heard Tren and Test are just like every street drug. Some can be cleaner than others and ECT.... My Tren is straight clear a little thick but clean. Does this have a diffrence on Tren and the dirtiness of the drug ?

[Bouncer]

Bro listen to me. Cutting is about diet and cardio. See my picture in the avatar? That was done on a test only cycle.

Tren is "dirty" in the sense that it fucks up your mind, can kill sex drive after use, progesterone nipples (puffy) etc..

Your gonna do what you want but if you wanna look like me I suggest you listen...

[Scrumhalf]

Wait, you are 21 yo, 150lbs @ 5'10 and you want to juice? Something's wrong with this picture.

As Bouncer always says, people's minds are made up and they are going to do what they have decided, but really bro, what is your eating and lifting schedule? Show to us that at 5'10" with 21yo hormones, you can't put on another 25lbs as a natty.

[Bouncer]

shame, guy didn't hear what he wanted to hear and moved on.

it's a real flaw of the human mind that people have to learn the hard way rather than listen to someone who clearly knows what the fuck he is talking about.

[MattG]

shame, guy didn't hear what he wanted to hear and moved on.

it's a real flaw of the human mind that people have to learn the hard way rather than listen to someone who clearly knows what the fuck he is talking about.

Yep. Probably went to bb.com or some other site to hear what he wanted to hear. Im sure youve noticed this kinda shit happens constantly...another thing i find annoying are the ppl who bother to sign up and do an intro thread, get 5 posts, then you never see them again - even if they had no reason to move on like this guy did. Seriously, whats the point?

[Bouncer]

I get more PM's from zero post dildos asking for personal advice. I respond with the same thing every time. "Post your question to the forum."

Everyone wants personalized service for free. Fuck outta here

[redback]

^ you should charge for that. Your used to pimping yourself anyway.

[henry]

150lbs and wanted to juice??

[Scrumhalf]

150lbs and wanted to juice??

We didn't tell him what he wanted to hear, I guess, so he split.

[Michaeljubba]

HAHAHA did not split guys. Only have a laptop in my office and forgot to check the status on this. I will take your word bouncer, ill put the tren to the side and t-400 the rest of this cycle! but when should i start the tren ?! or do i skip the Tren and go to anavar ? Im taking everything you guys say to an extreme. You clearly know what your talking about ! I can see from the picture you know what you are doing. On the T-400 i did 1 Full cc my first pin then three days later did half cc then three days later did another half cc to get my body use to the drug. From here on out, should i only be doing 1 cc a week ?!!! Once again, i am 21 and can be a smart ass at times but not on this kinda subject exspecialy when i dont know shit about any of this. I take everything you guys say into respect and only looking for the best in my body. Truly appriciate all the answers so far.

[Michaeljubba]

And for anyone that thinks they are wasting their time on my thread, you arent !!!!
I will be using this thred through my hole cycle, taking step by step. I will show my progress here every week. I am truly taking everything you guys say seriusly and will follow any steps you give me. I live in South Florida and no one knows shit here, Go figure.

[Bouncer]

HAHAHA did not split guys. Only have a laptop in my office and forgot to check the status on this. I will take your word bouncer, ill put the tren to the side and t-400 the rest of this cycle! but when should i start the tren ?! or do i skip the Tren and go to anavar ? Im taking everything you guys say to an extreme. You clearly know what your talking about ! I can see from the picture you know what you are doing. On the T-400 i did 1 Full cc my first pin then three days later did half cc then three days later did another half cc to get my body use to the drug. From here on out, should i only be doing 1 cc a week ?!!! Once again, i am 21 and can be a smart ass at times but not on this kinda subject exspecialy when i dont know shit about any of this. I take everything you guys say into respect and only looking for the best in my body. Truly appriciate all the answers so far.

No need "to get your body used to it" bro. It will do that on its own. T-400 is slow acting meaning it will slowly build up in your system.

Yes 1 cc per week is perfect.

Worry about the tren or anavar for another cycle. Do a proper test only cycle first.

[Michaeljubba]

Sounds good Bouncer, really appriciate evertything. Starter at 149 LB now at 155lb. Lets see where it takes me. Ill keep you posted on my GAINS HAHAHA. If i have any more questions or worries ill post them here. Not going to be a fuck head and move WebSites just because im not hearing what i want to hear. Thats how people learn. Sadly MYYYYY generation is getting dumber by the year HAHA.