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  • #16
    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    If you're running cyp or enanthate why not pin once a week and use the protocol above?

    I may try this my next time around. I'm 4 weeks into my pct. Can't wait until my boys get back to where they need to be.
    How long would you run nolva for after a 16 weeker?

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    • #17
      Here's my current pct:

      Clo - 100\50\50\50\25\25\12.5 (continue with 12.5 per day until completed)
      Nol - 40\20\20\20

      I've done just nolva in the past but I recover faster when I add the clomid into my pct

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
        Here's my current pct:

        Clo - 100\50\50\50\25\25\12.5 (continue with 12.5 per day until completed)
        Nol - 40\20\20\20

        I've done just nolva in the past but I recover faster when I add the clomid into my pct
        I might try clomid but it's been known to turn grown men into bitches - Fucks with your emotions.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TrapsBrah View Post
          I might try clomid but it's been known to turn grown men into bitches - Fucks with your emotions.
          Funny, I've also heard that and usually I'm very sensitive to all sides but this has never been a problem. Even if it is, grab a box of tissues and cry it out! Your boys will thank you for it! :D

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          • #20
            Agree with Chadd. Worth it in the end.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
              If you're running cyp or enanthate why not pin once a week
              because it's not optimal for blood hormone levels. at once a week you get a crash on day 6 and 7. test e or c is best E5D and yes I can definitly tell a difference pinning E5D compared to 7. Less sides is the main thing i notice. mental effect is far better as well. not as likely to have those ups and downs otherwise known as roid rage.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                because it's not optimal for blood hormone levels. at once a week you get a crash on day 6 and 7. test e or c is best E5D and yes I can definitly tell a difference pinning E5D compared to 7. Less sides is the main thing i notice. mental effect is far better as well. not as likely to have those ups and downs otherwise known as roid rage.
                I get it but what if you ran the hcg the day before and the day after you inject? Would that help with the sides you are describing?

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                • #23
                  no clue as I have the knowledge of rado when it comes to HCG. I can just speak for the test aspect.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                    no clue as I have the knowledge of rado when it comes to HCG. I can just speak for the test aspect.
                    I can certainly tell a difference e5d compared to once per week as well. I'm definitely looking to incorporate hcg though. Why couldn't you just use this protocol with injections e5d as well? You guys see any issues with doing it this way

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                      I get it but what if you ran the hcg the day before and the day after you inject? Would that help with the sides you are describing?
                      Im not sure the test boost from hcg would be enough to make up the difference in the drop off so I would say it may help slightly but probably wouldn't eliminate the issue at all. Id stick with the optimal manner of injecting anywhere from 2x/week (on cycle lets say)to a max of E5D (on a trt protocol) with cyp or enanthate esters.
                      JMO and experience of course. To each their own.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by StanG View Post
                        Im not sure the test boost from hcg would be enough to make up the difference in the drop off so I would say it may help slightly but probably wouldn't eliminate the issue at all. Id stick with the optimal manner of injecting anywhere from 2x/week (on cycle lets say)to a max of E5D (on a trt protocol) with cyp or enanthate esters.
                        JMO and experience of course. To each their own.
                        Stan, how would you suggest administering the 250IU 2x weekly if you're injecting trt e5d? And do you recommend one month on, one month off approach?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by AllDay View Post
                          Stan, how would you suggest administering the 250IU 2x weekly if you're injecting trt e5d? And do you recommend one month on, one month off approach?
                          I would do hcg the day before and 2 days post trt inject.
                          As far as one month on, one month off I dont really recommend that. What I do recommend is every 6 months or so take a month off. Once you work the hcg in and get that dialed in with your trt protocol I think you will really like it.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by StanG View Post
                            I would do hcg the day before and 2 days post trt inject.
                            As far as one month on, one month off I dont really recommend that. What I do recommend is every 6 months or so take a month off. Once you work the hcg in and get that dialed in with your trt protocol I think you will really like it.
                            Thanks bro, really appreciate it

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                            • #29
                              It works best to keep the boys happy during cycle. It does suppress so not to use to long after last esters diminish post cycle. Makes PCT much easier though.

                              500 IU twice a week is usually sufficient during cycle.

                              My .02

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                              • #30
                                When I first started TRT, the clinic sent me a protocol to follow that had HCG usage throughout the cycle. They claimed it would keep your balls from shrinking and allow your body to continue to make testosterone instead of shutting down.

                                During the cycle - 250 units 2 x per week
                                PCT starts two weeks after your last injection
                                HCG - One injection of 1000 units for 10 days

                                Hope that helps.

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