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  • Abstract: Deca for HIV muscle wasting

    Abstract


    AIDS. 1996 Jun;10(7):745-52.
    Safety and efficacy of nandrolone decanoate for treatment of wasting in patients with HIV infection.
    Gold J1, High HA, Li Y, Michelmore H, Bodsworth NJ, Finlayson R, Furner VL, Allen BJ, Oliver CJ.
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    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE:

    To evaluate the safety and efficacy of the anabolic steroid, nandrolone decanoate (Deca Durabolin) in patients with HIV wasting who are resistant to nutritional intervention.
    DESIGN:

    A 16-week open trial with subjects who had lost 5-15% of their usual body weight.
    SETTING:

    HIV/AIDS specialist ambulatory care services, both public and private, in sydney, Australia.
    PARTICIPANTS:

    Two hundred and twenty men entered the pre-therapy phase, and of these, 24 failed to gain weight and were enrolled. Seventeen subjects (81%) completed the 16-week trial.
    INTERVENTIONS:

    Pre-therapy nutritional assessment and education was conducted by the clinical dietitian. Those who failed to gain weight (10.9%) were treated with nandrolone decanoate (100 mg/ml) by deep intramuscular injection every 2 weeks for 16 weeks.
    MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES:

    Changes in weight and body composition (lean body mass, total body water and nitrogen index) were measured by anthropometry, bioelectrical impedance, and in vivo neutron activation. Changes in quality of life were assessed by the 30-item Medical Outcomes Study short form questionnaire. Changes in biochemistry, haematology and immunology were also measured.
    RESULTS:

    There were significant increases in weight (mean, 0.14 kg per week; P < 0.05) and lean body mass (mean, 3 kg by anthropometry; P < 0.005). The change in lean body mass was of similar magnitude across all measurement modalities. Quality of life parameters, especially functionality, increased significantly during the trial. No subject experienced toxicity.
    CONCLUSION:

    Nandrolone decanoate has beneficial effects on weight, lean body mass and quality of life in selected patients who have mild to moderate HIV wasting.

    PMID:
    8805865
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

  • #2
    Deca alone with no testosterone base?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
      Deca alone with no testosterone base?
      Yea. Pretty sure most AAS are and were developed to be used alone for the purposes of waisting diseases. Stacking different drugs can add other health issues especially for a sick individual. The goal should be to treat the main threat (muscle waisting) as best as possible while keeping side effects minimal. I doubt they are concerned about deca dick when trying to stay alive. lol

      I'm impressed that they were able to get those results from only 100mgs every 2 weeks.

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      • #4
        I wonder how deca would do for something like gout. My dad has been suffering gout attacks here and there and was holding his knee yesterday in pain the whole time we were there. Said it hurt right under the knee cap the worst. Anybody know of any studies or people that have treated gout with deca?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
          I wonder how deca would do for something like gout. My dad has been suffering gout attacks here and there and was holding his knee yesterday in pain the whole time we were there. Said it hurt right under the knee cap the worst. Anybody know of any studies or people that have treated gout with deca?



          The problem is that gout is a build up of high levels of uric acid. The attack comes suddenly, so when would he take it? Always? Does he avoid purines and eat properly to try to prevent them?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FitnessBrat View Post
            The problem is that gout is a build up of high levels of uric acid. The attack comes suddenly, so when would he take it? Always? Does he avoid purines and eat properly to try to prevent them?
            Not sure FB. If I would guess I'd say he hasn't changed his diet at all. We had a conversation a while back about how he said they told him to cut out beer to reduce the attacks and he won't consider that as an option so I doubt anything else was changed either.

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            • #7
              A very very old knowledge that aas prevent wasting. Gh test and primo would be best options

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              • #8
                Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                Not sure FB. If I would guess I'd say he hasn't changed his diet at all. We had a conversation a while back about how he said they told him to cut out beer to reduce the attacks and he won't consider that as an option so I doubt anything else was changed either.



                Well then I highly doubt steroids are a good option for him to consider. What a shame. My sisters ex has it really bad too, and refuses to give up alcohol. Seems crazy to me, but I guess it's worth it to them. :dunno:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FitnessBrat View Post
                  Well then I highly doubt steroids are a good option for him to consider. What a shame. My sisters ex has it really bad too, and refuses to give up alcohol. Seems crazy to me, but I guess it's worth it to them. :dunno:
                  the mindset of some people just makes me disgusted.

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