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    Injectable Insulin Use For Muscle Gain

    Just a note before you read the article. Humulin-R can be picked up at any US pharmacy without a script. Other types like Humalog require a script. If you decide to use Insulin for bodybuilding purposes, please be careful guys. If you're careless this stuff can kill you!
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    Written By 'The Slin Man' 8/27/2015

    OK, I want to talk about insulin here. I’m going to talk about how to use it properly, the different types, and what to expect from it.

    But first and foremost I’m going to talk about safety. Insulin is nothing to fuck around with, and if you’re fairly new to the world of performance enhancement and/or nutrition and training, don’t even consider doing something like insulin!! Insulin can kill you quick. I’m talking about a dirt nap within a couple hours if you’re not careful. HOWEVER, there are really only a couple ways you can fuck it up.

    The biggest way to fuck up insulin is incorrect measurement. If I tell you to take 5 units of insulin and you load up 5cc’s as you would a steroid shot, or even load up 5 units as you would a GH shot, you are probably going to die. 5 units of insulin means 5 tiny little lines or “clicks” on an insulin syringe. It will look like hardly anything in the needle, this is powerful shit and it doesn’t take much at all to do it’s job.

    The second biggest way to fuck up insulin is to not eat properly after administering it. As a general rule, for every 1 unit of insulin you inject, you need to take 10 grams of carbohydrates with it. This needs to be done within 15 minutes of injecting insulin.

    Depending on what type of insulin you use, you will want another meal within 60-90 minutes after that, and that will be a solid meal including fats, proteins, and carbs. After getting familiar with insulin and how your body reacts to it, you may find you can change the ratio to 7 grams carbs/ unit of insulin, or may need to raise it slightly, but for a first time insulin user, 10 grams/unit minimum, and err on the side of overkill at first!!!

    Fast Acting Insulins



    OK, now let’s get into the different types of insulin and what to expect. The first time I used insulin was 13 years ago, I’m kind of experienced here, so listen up damnit!!

    The first type of insulin, and the one most commonly used is HUMULIN-R. Humulin R can be purchased from a pharmacy without a prescription for around $20-30 a vial. That’s right, anyone off the street can walk into a Walmart pharmacy and buy Humulin-R.

    This is an insulin with a 30 min. – 1 hour onset, a 2-5 hour peak, and a 5-8 hour duration. This makes it a little more unpredictable than a faster insulin, because there is a much larger gap as to when it can peak. You could eat a meal with adequate carbs and then 3 hours later you’re feeling hypo and you better get more in you. But for purchasing/legality issues this is what most guys use.

    This is an insulin I would not recommend using more than 1 time/day. I’d use it post workout and make damn good and sure you’re not using it within 4-5 hours of bedtime. You want to be awake with this stuff so you can deal with any issues that are coming on from it.

    The next type of insulin we will talk about is HUMALOG/NOLVALOG. Humalog and Nolvalog are the same type of insulin, just different brand names. It’s just like Sony and Panasonic. This is a faster acting insulin with a 15 minute onset, 30-90 minute peak, and 3-5 hour duration. This is an insulin that you can shoot more than once a day. Two to three times a day injections are fine, but you need to be cautious of insulin stacking.

    “Stacking” is when you take an injection, then take another injection say 3-4 hours later, and even though you measured out x amount of units, it was really like x+3 units because there was some residual left from your last shot. What can happen is you misjudge your carb intake and you think you had adequate carbs, but you really fell short and can start getting hypo (dangerously low blood sugar).

    I would recommend using Humalog or Nolvalog over Humulin R, its a faster onset, peak, and a shorter duration. You can know what to expect from it a little easier than Humulin R. Also, being able to use it 2-3 times/day will keep you more anabolic and provide better gains.

    Long acting insulins

    Next we get into our long acting insulins, or 24 hour insulins. LANTUS/ LEVEMIR- These are the mack fucking Daddy’s of insulins. You want some huge gains? Then run a slower acting basal insulin behind a faster one such as Nolvalog or Humalog. There is no peak with Lantus, its release is slow enough that your body adjusts to it before any side effects occur. It’s the safest insulin you could use.

    Levemir is similar, but has a slight peak at 6-8 hours, but nothing noticable in most cases. These insulins are usually shot before bedtime, with a 1.5 hour onset, no peak (slight with Levemir, but not Lantus) and a 20-24 hour duration. This means you’re anabolic all the time!!

    So this is like your basal anabolic machine gun, and adding a faster acting insulin such as Humalog or Nolvalog is your grenade launcher. I’ve recently packed on 16 quality lbs in only 4 weeks with this, and that is ONLY USING insulin and my 150-200mg/wk testosterone replacement dosage!!! Think if I was on cycle too? Jesus Christ, what kind of gains would that yield?

    Eating on insulin!!!

    First off, I would highly advise against using insulin while strictly dieting. You just put yourself in a very dangerous state with lower nutrients and calories on insulin. Not to mention, it is easier to put on body fat with insulin if you’re not careful. I just don’t see the benefit of using it while cutting bodyfat.

    While using insulin, every few hours you should have a protein/carb source. We are not doing anything like intermittent fasting, or carb backloading here. You will feed your body on a regular basis throughout the day!!! Post injection of insulin should be 10 grams carbs per every unit of insulin!!! WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF SHOT!!! And remember, with HUMULIN-R, another meal with 40-60 grams carbs, 40-60 grams protein, and SOME healthy fats should be eaten 60-90 minutes from that!!!

    Always be near sugar and food. Actually, make sure its on you!! If you start feeling sweaty, irritable, having cold sweats, dizzy, shaky, hungry, thirsty, just know you’re probably going hypoglycemic and you better eat some simple sugars pretty fucking fast!!!

    No more than- 4-6 weeks on insulin!!! You do not want to turn yourself into a diabetic, therefore 4-6 weeks max!! It’s also difficult not to accumulate SOME BODY FAT on insulin. I’d follow it up with at least 12 weeks off. Humulin-R, Nolvalog, and Humalog can be used only on days you train if you prefer, this would probably be better so your body does not get too accustomed to it. Now with the 24 hour insulins like Lantus and Levemir, those you will need to take every day.

    Anyways, I’m not condoning using this stuff, and how you acquire it is up to you. I’m just telling you how to use the shit safely and what to expect from it. But I’m not going to lie, when it comes to gains in the gym this is some powerful shit!!!

    To put it simply, Insulin is the most anabolic thing you can use.

  • #2
    I just don't see that it gives anything but bloat to the average gym rat. It's the last thing I would use

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    • #3
      I disagree 1000% with one thing he says in the article. He states that 15 minutes after your shot you want to consume quick carbs and protein. This is fine, I agree with this part. But then he goes onto say that 90 minutes after your shot your first solid meal should contain protain, carbs, AND fat. This is what I disagree with. Humulin-R is still active 90 minutes after the shot. It acts as a shuttle for nutrients. If you eat fat it will shuttle fat directly to your gut. Trust me, it's very easy to get fat on slin.

      My advice, stick with carbs and protein only for at least 3 hours after your shot. After the 3 hours mark fat consumption can be resumed.

      I will also add that he understates the speed at which humulin-r kicks in after a shot. In the article he says 30min to an hour. This is not the case. Humulin-R can be felt within about 10-15 minutes after a shot. This is especially true if you take your shot directly after a workout when your blood sugar is already low.

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      • #4
        Seems like with the long acting ones, it would be even easier to gain fat on. But its all really fucking cheap. Deff gotta consider it

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        • #5
          He doesn't really talk about dosing and time in the article so..

          Most guys start with 10iu immediately after your workout followed up with a shake consisting of 50-75 grams carbs and 50-75 grams of protein. 0 Fat should be in the shake unless you want to store fat!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BamBam179 View Post
            Seems like with the long acting ones, it would be even easier to gain fat on. But its all really fucking cheap. Deff gotta consider it
            dont even consider the long acting ones, easy to go diabetic on those, easy to run into problems, easy to get fat like you said. if you run it, you want the quick acting.

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            • #7
              Bouncer did you try it that one time?

              My freinds all say it's powerful huge pumps strength and weight gain but thats just never been the goal for me from where I was already

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mr I View Post
                Bouncer did you try it that one time?

                My freinds all say it's powerful huge pumps strength and weight gain but thats just never been the goal for me from where I was already
                Yea I tried it back in the day. Don't remember much to be honest, I was like 20 and retarded. I do remember being starving almost immediately after shot.

                The mk-677 shit I'm on now reminds me more of slin then it does gh. Huge pumps, starving feeling etc.. I'm convinced it has some effect on slin and not just gh like everyone says.

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                • #9
                  I know I shouldn't even consider insulin at all bit why is it so intriguing? Is it just because it is the most powerful bodybuilding drug and you can just go to Walmart and get it otc? I can't stop researching it and yet I have no business messing with it.

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                  • #10
                    Many of my freinds use or have used and rate it in a big way for adding muscle fast. But it's of no interest to me whatsoever or should it be for anyone over 35 imo

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                      I know I shouldn't even consider insulin at all bit why is it so intriguing? Is it just because it is the most powerful bodybuilding drug and you can just go to Walmart and get it otc? I can't stop researching it and yet I have no business messing with it.
                      You said it yourself the other day brother in epix thread I believe. you talked about how you do it to improve yourself but your dedication level is nowhere near that of a bodybuilder.

                      nothing wrong with that at all btw. i'm just pointing out that on the one hand your saying your not that dedicated yet on the other your considering using one of bodybuildings most hardcore and dangerous drugs.

                      like i said above in this thread. if your diet isn't absolutly on point for at least 4-6 hours after humulin-r shot you WILL put on fat faster than you thought yourself capable.

                      i guess you could say i'm trying to talk you out of it. i don't see it as a good thing for you brother.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I hear you bro, I guess I am curious as to why I even have any interest in it. I'm definitely not going to mess with it but I just can't understand why I even have an interest in it at all. It makes no sense to me.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                          Yeah I hear you bro, I guess I am curious as to why I even have any interest in it. I'm definitely not going to mess with it but I just can't understand why I even have an interest in it at all. It makes no sense to me.
                          understood. same here. it's like the red button on the wall that mom says "DO NOT PUSH". :grin:

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                          • #14
                            Lol. Well said!

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