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    HGH is Crap by TC Luoma

    Muscle Growth or Water Bloat?


    If you name a baby Jarvis or Jeeves, chances are it's going to grow up to be a butler or manservant. If you name a baby girl Candi with an "i," you might as well put a unicorn-festooned stripper pole in her bedroom because you've pretty much laid out her career path.

    The same thing happened when some scientist gave the name "growth hormone" to the 191 amino acid peptide he'd just isolated. Regardless of how it plays out in real life, the name itself would guarantee that athletes and bodybuilders would covet it from that point on, practically salivating at the prospect of all that juicy growth.

    Such is its reputation that most lifters would use GH if they could get their hands on it, or, more accurately, afford it. Others eagerly read articles about how to elicit its natural release. Others take supplements to coax the body to produce it, but it's all horse puckey.

    They're right, of course, in thinking that substantial amounts of GH might indeed increase lean body mass, but it's just because of an increase in extracellular WATER – all show and no go. At least that's the finding of a recent paper that pooled the results of 11 randomized controlled trials of the effects of GH on body comp.

    This paper also makes me think there's a hitherto unthought-of GH side effect that bodybuilders might want to consider before mortgaging their house to buy a good supply of the stuff.

    Big Monsters, Yes, But Not Because of Muscle


    Writing in the publication Human Physiology, the researchers reported that "GH administration significantly increases the lean body mass... and reduces the fat mass without changing muscle protein synthesis rate and muscle strength as compared with placebo."

    And then they administered the coup de grace:

    "The increase in lean body mass is due to an accumulation of extracellular water."

    Ergo, guys who got big(ger) from using GH are just human versions of the Grow Monsters that parents give to toddlers. Stick them into water and the tiny blobs quadruple in size to form all kinds of colorful dinosaurs, but those dinosaurs are no more dangerous than they were before they sopped up all that water.

    There's Got to Be Some Validity to GH, Doesn't There?


    Despite the finding that GH isn't much good for increasing actual muscle or strength, the hormone comes with some "yeah buts":
    • Yeah, but GH is still great for healing connective tissues.
    • Yeah, but GH still burns fat pretty well.

    Those "yeah buts" appear to be valid, especially the first one. I've long been of the mind that GH should be used virtually without restriction for treating stubborn, long-term connective tissue injuries.

    The other "yeah but" is more problematic. The idea of using GH for fat reduction is appealing, but you have to weigh the cost/benefit ratio. Is losing a pretty modest amount of fat worth a small but possible increased risk of cancer in general, particularly for the prostate, as some studies have suggested?

    After all, it really doesn't take a humungous deductive leap to think that anything that causes cells to grow might also cause cancer cells to grow.

    Another Ugly Truth About GH


    GH comes with another couple of "yeah buts" that pertain specifically to bodybuilders:
    • Yeah, but GH does grow actual muscle when you combine it with anabolic androgenic steroids because of some apparent synergy.
    • Yeah, but the studies the scientists looked at in the Human Physiology paper involved sane doses of GH, not the 15 or 20 IUs professional bodybuilders use every day. When you take that much, shit happens.

    Both of these statements appear to be true, and it's up to individuals to decide if the alleged risks of combining GH with steroids or using huge amounts of GH are worth it. However, I've got another observation to throw into their decision-making mix.

    It's now undeniable that GH causes an increase in extracellular water, which is fluid found in-between cells, transcellular fluid, and blood plasma. Contrast that with the effects of creatine, which, while also causing an increase in extracellular water, also causes an increase in intracellular water.

    (The latter phenomenon is also known as cell volumization, and aside from causing a cosmetic increase in the size of muscle cells, it also triggers intracellular machinery to increase protein synthesis. That's a good thing, at least for people who want bigger and stronger muscles.)

    The trouble is, all that GH-caused extracellular water has another, more colloquial term: water retention – and it's the bane of competitive bodybuilders, not to mention bikini models.

    Take a look at the following photo:



    The one on the left is of Tom Platz's legs, circa 1980. It's a safe bet that Tom didn't use GH. This was before Genentech had started clinical trials of its biosynthetic version of the hormone. Back in Tom's day, the only way you could accumulate therapeutic doses of GH was from the pituitary glands of corpses.

    While I only know Tom casually, I'm pretty sure he'd find using a hand-held orange squeezer to milk the GH from pituitaries somewhat distasteful.

    Now look at the picture on the right. It's of a competitor from a recent Mr. Olympia contest. Notice anything different? While almost anybody's legs would suffer by comparison with the Quadfather, the bodybuilder on the right doesn't look to have benefitted from almost 40 years of increased knowledge of training or chemistry.

    In fact, he almost looks like he's retaining water. Despite presumably using all the tried-and-true techniques for ridding himself of every last bit of muscle-definition ruining moisture, something looks like it's still making him a tad smooth, at least in comparison to the Golden Eagle.

    Is it from using large amounts of GH? It could be, and yet another reason why competitive bodybuilders might want to reevaluate their indiscriminate use of the drug.

  • #2
    Good article. The leg photo comparison is telling.

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    • #3
      I used to read a lot of TC's work but I couldn't disagree with this one more. Sounds like some stuff he just rattled off the top of his head, just to write an article.

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      • #4
        I have agreed for years that GH is just not worth the money for anybody but a top level competitive bodybuilder
        Not for the reason presented here though. There is so much wrong with this study he is talking about, if you apply it to competitive or serious bodybuilders. Yes an increase in extracellular water is useless but no possible way is GH the reason a competitor is smooth looking despite having very low body fat.
        I'll explain to you why this does happens.
        There is the last week before a contest formula that you can be instructed to do by your local gym meathead expert. Problem is it does the opposite of what you are trying to accomplish.
        When you step on stage Saturday morning the goal is to be as full as the off season, yet full,hard, separated and vascular. Extracellular water will prevent you from having this look. The meathead expert last week prep goes something like three days very low to no carbs(,I've never once gone a day with 0 carbs or trained anybody who has). At the end of these three days you will look small and flat as the lack of carbohydrates will reduce intracellular water. This is the water you want to maximize. Then the next three days they eat a whole lot of carbs and slowly reduce water intake while at the same time taking a strong diuretic like diazide. Finally cutting water completely the night before but carbs still high and sodium low with a whole lot of potassium. I'll tell you what you will look like. If you do not eat too many carbs and spill over you will be ripped but very, very flat and small looking. The reason is your muscles are made up of about 75% intracellular water. By cutting your water you will dehydrate causing this number to drop. The more it drops the flatter you look until you just die, lol.(Seriously but most dont take it that far)
        Anyone who competes and does not know this I'll tell you the most important thing to look your best on the day of the contest. NEVER STOP DRINKING WATER. IN FACT YOU SHOULD INCREASE WATER INTAKE. ESPECIALLY IF USING STRONG DIURETICS. At the same time you do need to eat enough carbs to fill your muscles without spilling over which will cause intracellular water to begin to leak into the space between your muscle and skin or extracellular water. Causing you to look smooth. Everyone is different you need to find the correct amount and type of carbs for your body. If you get this right you will be on stage bigger, hard, full and vascular with great muscle seperation.
        That's why I dont buy this.
        Every good competitor knows this and most very good competitors are using GH. They still show up hard, full and big. Being smooth on stage if your BF is low has nothing to do with gh.I could describe the best way to go about the last week but this isn't about that.
        I believe GH isn't worth the money simply because you can build a hell of a lot more muscle using anabolics, eating correctly and training correctly. Yes GH burns fat but I could tell you what you could use to burn fat more effectively for a fraction of the cost.
        I'm not positive about this. There is still the theory that GH, taken over a long period of time, can create new muscle cells which anabolics can then cause to maximize in size making you bigger than you ever could have gotten without the GH. Long period of time meaning a year or more. At the least 4 ius a day.


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        • #5
          I would agree its overrated but then again i think its hard to get the stuff the guys in the 80's were using

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redback View Post
            I would agree its overrated but then again i think its hard to get the stuff the guys in the 80's were using
            You mean the 90's and early 2000's dick head. there was very little good GH in the 80's. it was the 90's and especially the early 2000's when good gh really became available.

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