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  • First time need help

    This is my first time to use steroids so I need a detailed step by step first cycle or stack to gain some lean gains. Please include everything I would need during and after the cycle for PCT and side effects.

    I am 38 years old and I weigh 215lbs and 5' 11". I have worked out most of my life and I am naturally very muscular with little fat. I want to get some good gains mostly in shoulders and upper back, my chest is naturally large as is most other parts of my body but I am wide shouldered and I need more mass on my shoulders and upper back to get better semetry.

    What would be the best cycle or stack and what should i use with it during and after to decrease side effects, bloating and smooth PCT, thanks for any help you can provide!

  • #2
    test enath or cyp at 500mgs a week for 12 weeks is a good first cycle.

    use nolvadex if you start getting gyno and also use nolvadex as PCT starting 2 weeks after last shot of test. use 20mgs for a month and then 10mg for a month.

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    • #3
      If I do Test E and deca stack with HCG afterward should i use Nolvadex during or after too?

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      • #4
        you dont need deca and you dont need hcg. hcg is overated shit that causes more issues then it is worth.

        deca and test can cause sides from 2 different angles and you wont know which is which.

        do a simple test cycle and prevent sides and use nolvadex as pct.

        cant be any easier and still get great results.

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        • #5
          Good advice.reminds me of my first cycle.

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          • #6
            this is great newbie info. thanks eqjedi and bouncer!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rado
              You've never even tried it, so why the fuck you even saying anyting about it? :slap:
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              no fuckin way I agree with Rado again

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              • #8
                Hey what's up guys need a little advice, It's been a long time since I did a cycle. Im looking to burn some fat and bulk up a little bit. I was thinking of Testosterone Propionate, Drostanolone Propionate (Masteron), Trenbolone Acetate. Let me know what you think. How much should I run a week and for how long?

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                • #9
                  Mike, start your own thread in the steroid section and you will get more replies.

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                  • #10
                    thank you

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