Will Harris 1 week out from IFBB Hartford

[Bouncer]

my wife would love you lol

she already does. :hibb: :thumup:

[bigscott]

You been saying your wife wants you to stop and this is gonna be your last for years bro.

Fuck the shows dude, they aren't doing shit for you.

Keep training, keep living the bodybuilder lifestyle, but the shows... Fuck the shows.

my wife would love you lol

[Bouncer]

You been saying your wife wants you to stop and this is gonna be your last for years bro.

Fuck the shows dude, they aren't doing shit for you.

Keep training, keep living the bodybuilder lifestyle, but the shows... Fuck the shows.

[bigscott]

Mr I, you are lost bro. It is the compound effect. No pro or amature for that matter is "running a little test".

Bro from 17 to 20 I never came off. I am running test, dbol, and peptides now. I am not pointing my finger and looking down, I am part of it. Difference is, I am not confused or stupid to think there is no health issue.

agreed and this is why my doc and i are very close ... he tests me on the reg .. only time things get a little off base is when i get ready for a show .. other then that things stay in the green as far as my blood work ... keep it basic most of the time and you can live pretty healthy life on gear .. its the shows that can and will bite you .. its why my wife has asked me for the next one to be my last one ... it takes its toll on the body and mind ..


i dont do it for anything but me .. i fucking love it ... i love to compete .. love to challenge myself to diet for 20 weeks .. not many can do it they cave .. my next will be my last though ..

[Mr I]

just mental illness. :rofl:

i have visions of grandeur. :lmao:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Bouncer]

why what health issues do you have?

just mental illness. :rofl:

i have visions of grandeur. :lmao:

[Mr I]

Mr I, you are lost bro. It is the compound effect. No pro or amature for that matter is "running a little test".

Bro from 17 to 20 I never came off. I am running test, dbol, and peptides now. I am not pointing my finger and looking down, I am part of it. Difference is, I am not confused or stupid to think there is no health issue.

why what health issues do you have?

[Bouncer]

Mr I, you are lost bro. It is the compound effect. No pro or amature for that matter is "running a little test".

Bro from 17 to 20 I never came off. I am running test, dbol, and peptides now. I am not pointing my finger and looking down, I am part of it. Difference is, I am not confused or stupid to think there is no health issue.

[Mr I]

He isn't dead but look at him, looks Fucken crippled and 80 years old. And need I remind you of his triple bypass or whatever it was.

And compared to today Arnold was doing child cycles.

Go ask Tom prince, flex wheeler, muntzer, dillet, and the 100's of others who had to leave early with heart, liver, or kidney issues or simply died.

You are trying to defend something that is not defendable.

You think he looks bad for 60?, don't look crippled to me, the heart artery was the same as his mother had. Sly looks good at 60, franco columbo looks good at 60. Those guys you listed suffered because of diaretics and pain meds in the case of prince, not because they were running a bit of test

[Scrumhalf]

Why isn't arnie dead with no money then, dude was eating dbol for breakie at 13

Last line in post 23.

Moreover, he is a gazillionaire. I am sure he can recruit the best doctors in the world to undo or at least alleviate any potential damage that he may have done regardless of cost. Your average bodybuilder? Not so sure comparison with Arnold is valid.

[Bouncer]

Why isn't arnie dead with no money then, dude was eating dbol for breakie at 13

He isn't dead but look at him, looks Fucken crippled and 80 years old. And need I remind you of his triple bypass or whatever it was.

And compared to today Arnold was doing child cycles.

Go ask Tom prince, flex wheeler, muntzer, dillet, and the 100's of others who had to leave early with heart, liver, or kidney issues or simply died.

You are trying to defend something that is not defendable.

[Mr I]

Why isn't arnie dead with no money then, dude was eating dbol for breakie at 13

[Bouncer]

Don't kid yourself, in our world of bodybuilding it's "not that bad" but in the world of doctors and science, it is absolute abuse and will lead to health problems. Im not point at Scott either as we are all guilty of it.

[Mr I]

Only things in Scotts list that need looking out for are; diazide, winny, var Halo and to a point tren. If they aren't being taken for long periods I don't see anyrthing that bad at all.

Aas taken for long periods at high doses will give you secondary problems cardiac and others but I don't think scotts pre contest short term stack was that bad

[Bouncer]

I will freely admit I know nothing about bodybuilding other than as an admirer of the aesthetics of the human form, but this thread is sobering. Just looking at Scott's list of pharmaceuticals, I can only wonder what the pro bodybuilders are taking and what long-term damage it is doing to their bodies. Even if you are making money and are sponsored for a few years, I find it hard to rationalize considering one has only the body they have and it has to last 80 or 90 years.

Some take more and some take less.

Either way, no way you will ever catch me taking that much in return for no money and poor health.

Most I will take is what they were taking in the golden age of the late 60's and early 70's.