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Recognizing that this country was built on profound injustice, and that we have been at war, inflicting pain and death and destruction for most of our existence, and that the idea of American exceptionalism, so dutifully force-fed to Americans from childhood is a lie, recognizing these and striving to fix them, aren't acts of hating your country or being a traitor. They are the purest forms of love for your country. To recognize that your country has faults, and working to fix them, is what patriotism is all about.
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Completely agree that sentimentOriginally posted by Scrumhalf View PostRecognizing that this country was built on profound injustice, and that we have been at war, inflicting pain and death and destruction for most of our existence, and that the idea of American exceptionalism, so dutifully force-fed to Americans from childhood is a lie, recognizing these and striving to fix them, aren't acts of hating your country or being a traitor. They are the purest forms of love for your country. To recognize that your country has faults, and working to fix them, is what patriotism is all about.
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The saddest part of that reality check is that if it’s just about bullying, Then it’s suggests that in order to be successful you have to bully completely, not half measures. If blacks had been repatriated back to Africa, none of this would be happening. Yes I know that’s a disgusting to suggest.Originally posted by LIVAmerica was built on bullying and sadly it still exists today. I don't care what the history books say. I care what i see out of man today. Some say its worse now, only cuz there's more of it. Same shit more people. History repeats itself. Unfortunately it's top of the food chain syndrome. You can see a man through his eyes. They tell no lies. Read a man's eyes you'll survive anywhere. I'll bet my team is the next to take the "native American/native American theme" to change. As it should. I've been on board with the change since they first mentioned it years ago. I'm down for that. Respect them now cuz we certainly didn't respect them when we took their shit. America, home of the largest shit show on earth.
in the UK we paid slave traders compensation to give it up. Many are appalled but hey, it avoided conflict.
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i have a related/unrelated personal story here. you may be interested by it or you may wipe your ass with it. your choice. I've been to Indian reservations and I've seen the devastation that alcohol and drugs have caused their communities. these once proud and powerful people have been reduced to little more than drunks and druggies in many cases..
I was raised by a 100% native american (Canadian). he was the real deal. none of this 5% native american pretend business where white people pretend to have "ethnic" culture. lolz.
my mom met him when i was around 10 years old. he saved my life. we had nothing. he on the other hand was one of the best professional hockey players that ever played the game. multiple Stanley cup rings. anyone that knows where i'm from can probably figure out who it is.. anyway he was retired by the time my mom met him. he wasn't "rich" because they weren't payed the same in the 70's-80's like they are now. but he certainly had more money than my mom and I had and he owned his own business. my life went from just above poverty to upper middle class instantly. i traveled to other countries for the first time and learned a whole lot more about the world from the second he came into my life. i absolutely would not be the same person I am today without him. i owe him everything and would do anything for him.
he had nothing growing up and was raised in a tiny house with something like 15 other brother and sisters. if not for his natural talent and hard work he would probably be long gone or a drunk in poverty. all the reservations in the US and Canada have serious substance abuse problems. part of what he did was travel to these reservations and give speeches and hang out with the kids. basically trying to inspire them and show them they can be something better. at one time he was an alcoholic himself. matter of fact he had a hangover during many of his games. shows you how great he really was to be able to play like that...
we used to take trips to Canada every summer and stay a few weeks while he visited the reservations. was an eye opening experience to say the least.
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If you know anything about history as I know you do.... every single "great" empire throughout human history was built on exactly those same things. it is the human condition. these things happen in cycles. we learn lessons > we try to fix our mistakes > we make improvements > there is a period of peace > problems inevitably arise > people get more extreme in their thinking as times get tougher > extreme ideas start to arise and extreme leadership soon follows. > war is usually the result and at the end of all that the cycle repeats.Originally posted by Scrumhalf View PostRecognizing that this country was built on profound injustice, and that we have been at war, inflicting pain and death and destruction for most of our existence, and that the idea of American exceptionalism, so dutifully force-fed to Americans from childhood is a lie, recognizing these and striving to fix them, aren't acts of hating your country or being a traitor. They are the purest forms of love for your country. To recognize that your country has faults, and working to fix them, is what patriotism is all about.
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Nearly brought a tearOriginally posted by Bouncer View Posti have a related/unrelated personal story here. you may be interested by it or you may wipe your ass with it. your choice. I've been to Indian reservations and I've seen the devastation that alcohol and drugs have caused their communities. these once proud and powerful people have been reduced to little more than drunks and druggies in many cases..
I was raised by a 100% native american (Canadian). he was the real deal. none of this 5% native american pretend business where white people pretend to have "ethnic" culture. lolz.
my mom met him when i was around 10 years old. he saved my life. we had nothing. he on the other hand was one of the best professional hockey players that ever played the game. multiple Stanley cup rings. anyone that knows where i'm from can probably figure out who it is.. anyway he was retired by the time my mom met him. he wasn't "rich" because they weren't payed the same in the 70's-80's like they are now. but he certainly had more money than my mom and I had and he owned his own business. my life went from just above poverty to upper middle class instantly. i traveled to other countries for the first time and learned a whole lot more about the world from the second he came into my life. i absolutely would not be the same person I am today without him. i owe him everything and would do anything for him.
he had nothing growing up and was raised in a tiny house with something like 15 other brother and sisters. if not for his natural talent and hard work he would probably be long gone or a drunk in poverty. all the reservations in the US and Canada have serious substance abuse problems. part of what he did was travel to these reservations and give speeches and hang out with the kids. basically trying to inspire them and show them they can be something better. at one time he was an alcoholic himself. matter of fact he had a hangover during many of his games. shows you how great he really was to be able to play like that...
we used to take trips to Canada every summer and stay a few weeks while he visited the reservations. was an eye opening experience to say the least.
Its a great story and resonates on a couple levels; experiences I had with mentors and my own influence in relationship with a woman that had 5 kids. No time spent with kids is ever wasted.
That guy could so easily have been bitter but was instead solid and with love.Last edited by Mr I; 08-18-20, 10:45 AM.
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yea he was a good dude. i was a pain in the ass when i was younger and he still treated me like a real son.Originally posted by Mr I View Post
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Its a great story and resonates on a couple levels; experiences I had with mentors and my own influence in relationship with a woman that had 5 kids. No time spent with kids is ever wasted.
That guy could so easily have been bitter but was instead solid and with love.
him and my mom divorced years ago. basically when i moved out of the house they kinda fell apart. shame.
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Meh, it’s as if it’s become fashionable to bear down on whites. Fuck that, sounds like bitterness from people that need excuses.
Its come over here (UK) too.
If you looked at the average family unit, as a percentage I bet that most white men in the UK that father kids, stay involved even if they and the mother separated.
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