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Here is a follow-up question to Mrs. P's thread about religion.
How many of you think that if you weren't raised a certain way and instead were taught nothing about religion till age 20, you would choose the same religion or any religion at all? This kind of forces you to take a step back and really ask yourself what is your belief based on. I know that this will offend some people but I believe parents and families don't even give kids a chance, they are persuaded to be religious before they even have a full set of facts on what decision to make.
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I agree.
Kids are taugh religion from a young age. Most parents feel that it is part of their responsibilities.
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I am not offended but I have a comment, if you are supposed to give kids a chance would you give them a pack of cigarrettes or bottle of alcohol or how about drugs, then tell them hey it's your decision? I gauantee no parent would do that. Why is religion so bad? It's supposed to show you how to love and respect your fellow man.
I am not a parent but aren't parents supposed to be the teachers of their kids until they are old enough to make their own decisions?
I am not trying to start a fight dude, just giving my opinion like you did.Comment
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i for one have never thought that religion was bad in any way. i have the fullest respect for anyone's religion. throughout time there have been people who have willingly put down their lives because they would not renounce their religion. that by far is the noblest thing i can imagine. and if there IS a heaven then i would imagine these people all have a place there. stonecold's question is almost like saying a family with very small children (or no children at all) got stranded on an island with no hopes of rescue. the parents lose faith, and never teach their children or (newborns) about God. would God not consider these children His? i from personal upbringing have always been taught that knowing God, and losing Him is worse than never knowing Him at all. personally i can't see myself in believing in something no one has ever seen. it just feels like a false sense of security to me, i don't "need" that to live a full and happy life. i apologize if i have offended anyone, not my intentions.Originally posted by J.D.
I gauantee no parent would do that. Why is religion so bad? It's supposed to show you how to love and respect your fellow man.Comment
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What I do think is that organized religion gives a parent (I am one), a great blueprint to help raise a kid with a strong moral and ethical background. The ten commandments are wonderful rules whether you believe in Big G or not. Don't kill, don't steal, etc, etc. It is also easier for children to have blind faith and accept "the teachings". It is also very easy in a society where this is the norm. I was raise a strict Catholic, but this was due to being raised in a strict Catholic family and going to a Catholic school. If my parents were Druids, I probably would have grown up worshiping the Divine Oak.Comment
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I think you are confused about what I said. I don't know where your first comment came from about the drugs being given to them. I meant that childeren should be taught about religion but not brainwashed with it and told that they will go to hell if they don't. I don't think religion is bad, I just think there is much contradiction in it and there is nothing in it that you can't achieve through normal secular means. Showing love and respect to your fellow man can be achieved without religion. being spiritual does not have to be connected with religion. Also a side note, is that why so many people are killed in the name of religion-because of love and respect for their fellow man? and yes parents are suppose to be the teachers of their childeren and in the job is to teach your childeren how to take in all the facts or life an make their own decision based on that. Not give a jump start to religion so by the time they are of the age of reason they don't know how to integrate the rest of their knowledge of the world and science that disagrees with religion.Originally posted by J.D.
I am not offended but I have a comment, if you are supposed to give kids a chance would you give them a pack of cigarrettes or bottle of alcohol or how about drugs, then tell them hey it's your decision? I gauantee no parent would do that. Why is religion so bad? It's supposed to show you how to love and respect your fellow man.
I am not a parent but aren't parents supposed to be the teachers of their kids until they are old enough to make their own decisions?
I am not trying to start a fight dude, just giving my opinion like you did.Comment
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what happens when your kids start to ask why though? to say because God says so does not satisfy the human need to know. there are moral and ethics in philosophy that actually give valid reasoning on why killing is wrong. your last sentence is exactly the point I was trying to make in my first post.Originally posted by muddy
What I do think is that organized religion gives a parent (I am one), a great blueprint to help raise a kid with a strong moral and ethical background. The ten commandments are wonderful rules whether you believe in Big G or not. Don't kill, don't steal, etc, etc. It is also easier for children to have blind faith and accept "the teachings". It is also very easy in a society where this is the norm. I was raise a strict Catholic, but this was due to being raised in a strict Catholic family and going to a Catholic school. If my parents were Druids, I probably would have grown up worshiping the Divine Oak.Comment
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The comment about drugs was the example of choice is all.Originally posted by stonecold54
I think you are confused about what I said. I don't know where your first comment came from about the drugs being given to them. I meant that childeren should be taught about religion but not brainwashed with it and told that they will go to hell if they don't. I don't think religion is bad, I just think there is much contradiction in it and there is nothing in it that you can't achieve through normal secular means. Showing love and respect to your fellow man can be achieved without religion. being spiritual does not have to be connected with religion. Also a side note, is that why so many people are killed in the name of religion-because of love and respect for their fellow man? and yes parents are suppose to be the teachers of their childeren and in the job is to teach your childeren how to take in all the facts or life an make their own decision based on that. Not give a jump start to religion so by the time they are of the age of reason they don't know how to integrate the rest of their knowledge of the world and science that disagrees with religion.
If you believe in heaven, then there's a hell. That's not brainwashing, that's teaching the whole relious aspect. It also says blessed are those who believe without seeing. Meaning even if you didn't believe in any form of religion but lived your life good and clean you are a good person.
People fight for religion because they want to fight. I gaurantee they would be fighting anyway. They just feel if they put religion as the cause they sleep better at night. For example Jesus said those without sin toss the first stone. Of course we are all sinners so we shouldn't be fighting anyway.Comment
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I combine the two. I focus on the human side of things rather than God says so. It is much easier to go with the free will idea and go with making the right choice because of virtue rather than forcing to do the right thing in fear of the eternal flame!Originally posted by stonecold54
what happens when your kids start to ask why though? to say because God says so does not satisfy the human need to know. there are moral and ethics in philosophy that actually give valid reasoning on why killing is wrong. your last sentence is exactly the point I was trying to make in my first post.Comment
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I will just make one small comment I never said choice is all. i was limiting my comments to religious teachings. other than that there isn't much else to say. :)Originally posted by J.D.
The comment about drugs was the example of choice is all.
If you believe in heaven, then there's a hell. That's not brainwashing, that's teaching the whole relious aspect. It also says blessed are those who believe without seeing. Meaning even if you didn't believe in any form of religion but lived your life good and clean you are a good person.
People fight for religion because they want to fight. I gaurantee they would be fighting anyway. They just feel if they put religion as the cause they sleep better at night. For example Jesus said those without sin toss the first stone. Of course we are all sinners so we shouldn't be fighting anyway.Comment
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can we still be friends stonecold?:)Comment
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I think it's important to introduce some religion to young children, just as we do with almost all things in life. ie. You don't wait to teach your child how to cook until they are leaving home.
Giving them some education about different religions is what I do, with the most information being based on Christianity since that is what I know the most about. Included in the religions I've discussed is Athiesism. As she matures and gains more knowledge she will discover for herself what she wants to believe in. When she was very young I printed out the 10 commandments for her. I explained what they all meant. I did not tell her that if she didn't follow them that she would burn in hell though. I think the 10 commandments are basicly good values and kids need to learn values starting from when they're very young.Comment
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The Holy Bible answers all of these questions........Pick up a copy.Its the biggest selling book of all time.Comment
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Re: Here is a follow-up question to Mrs. P's thread about religion.
This is how I was raised and I thank my parents for letting me use my ADULT mind to decide for myself.Originally posted by stonecold54
How many of you think that if you weren't raised a certain way and instead were taught nothing about religion till age 20, you would choose the same religion or any religion at all? This kind of forces you to take a step back and really ask yourself what is your belief based on. I know that this will offend some people but I believe parents and families don't even give kids a chance, they are persuaded to be religious before they even have a full set of facts on what decision to make.Comment
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Organized religion is a money making crock of shit IMO!!! It's all a hoax and unfortunity the masses have bought into this crap, because they fear they will go to hell. Give me a break! :rolleyes:Comment
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