Hack-a-Shaq

[r_deese]

Sorry if I get anal sometimes making these posts. I had my own sports show on the radio in west tennessee for 2 years and it's in my blood to debate sports w/ people. No offense intended

[Scrumhalf]

Originally posted by r_deese
Can't agree with u scrumhalf... Shaq really has alot of border to overcome in shooting. First he's tall... arch of a shot has alot to do with good shooting and if you're almost looking down on the goal, your arch is likely not good. Second he's fat (partially his own fault), and running up and down a court tires the poor joker out more than the normal person. He carries 350 down the floor, most of them carry scarcely over 200. 3) His hands are enormous. If you've never seen the picture of Shaq palming a basketball between each of his fingers, look it up. Try sprinting for about 30 minutes, then grab a racquetball and try to shoot it into a dixie cup sitting on a tall table just about a 2 feet over ur head. Welcome to Shaq's world.

R_deese, I just don't buy the angle theory....

Here are some stats for other centers who are as tall as Shaq or taller, so they should have the same or more "problems" with angle and arc of their free throw:

Name Height Weight FT %
Shaq 7'1" 340 54
Yao Ming 7'6" 310 81
Sabonis 7'3" 292 79
Robinson 7'1" 235 74
Ewing 7'0" 240 74

I deliberately picked centers who/are peers of O'Neal so that we are not trying to compare eras, etc. (although free throws should translate across eras).

I certainly agree that Shaq is pretty heavy - if that is wearing him out, maybe he should work on that as well. That's the problem I have with Shaq - he is great but he shows no desire to become phenomenal. Comments like I can be 40 lbs overweight because I can still kick everyone else's ass is proof that he is satisfied with being just good enough.

[r_deese]

Originally posted by Scrumhalf
R_deese, I just don't buy the angle theory....

Here are some stats for other centers who are as tall as Shaq or taller, so they should have the same or more "problems" with angle and arc of their free throw:

Name Height Weight FT %
Shaq 7'1" 340 54
Yao Ming 7'6" 310 81
Sabonis 7'3" 292 79
Robinson 7'1" 235 74
Ewing 7'0" 240 74

I deliberately picked centers who/are peers of O'Neal so that we are not trying to compare eras, etc. (although free throws should translate across eras).

I certainly agree that Shaq is pretty heavy - if that is wearing him out, maybe he should work on that as well. That's the problem I have with Shaq - he is great but he shows no desire to become phenomenal. Comments like I can be 40 lbs overweight because I can still kick everyone else's ass is proof that he is satisfied with being just good enough.

You make good points man, fun debate and I couldn't agree more with the last paragraph. he does have that attitude and it's fine cuz he's still the best.

[r_deese]

Originally posted by Keiser
So BF% determines how much muscle you have? I guess that Taeshaun Prince is solid muscle because he has a BF% of probably 5%.

Do you know who oliver Miller is? Well that is 300lbs of fat, compare him to Shaq.

Well BF% would let u know how much of that weight was muscle and how much fat. Ex. I am 10.22% BF. I weigh 163. My body composition is 147 lbs of muscle and 16 lbs of fat. that simple

[r_deese]

That would give him a comp around 272 lbm (muscle, bones, organs, water, blood), and 68 lbs or good ol' blubber

[Scrumhalf]

The player I most respect in this respect is Shannon Sharpe, the Broncos TE who just retired this year. Huge, muscular and cut beyond belief. His bodyfat has got to be well below 10%. Plus, a damn good TE, possibly the best at the position.

Plus, he was so totally professional. I read an interview with him where he said that until he retires, his focus is football and nothing else. Everything he does from the moment he wakes up - his daily schedule, what he eats, etc. is revolved on being a better football player. He goes to bed early, no partying all night, etc. Said he has plenty of time for all that when he retires. Love that attidude....

Look for him in the broadcast booth next season.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by Keiser
So BF% determines how much muscle you have? I guess that Taeshaun Prince is solid muscle because he has a BF% of probably 5%.

Do you know who oliver Miller is? Well that is 300lbs of fat, compare him to Shaq.

Oh I thought your were saying it like he was completely solid.