who thinks jay can beat ronnie.. ?

[MuGGsy]

if he comes in 15 lbs heavier than in these pics in his arnold condition it will be a great show..

[MuGGsy]

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[MuGGsy]

pics were from mm

[Timma]

I think he has a good chance as long as he looks like that. The pics I saw of him from last year he looked a little washed out. If he comes i looking like he did at the Arnold and a little heavier, he has a good chance IMO.

[MuGGsy]

if ron comes in at 300, i doubt jay can compete personally.. I can't wait to see this show :D

[beefcake]

A Mr O has never been dethroned. I don't think the judges will let it happen. I thought jay had a chance, but then ronnie came in the way he did and totally changed my outllook. I don't think jay will, he looked pretty crappy at the O.

[r_deese]

Ronnie is king of the O... even if Jay comes in 15 lbs heavier than the Arnold, I still don't see him looking as good as Ronnie. Face it, he's the man right now

[Bouncer]

This is something I know like the back of my hand. There is nobody alive today in the IFBB that can beat ronnie at his best. Its all up to ronnie. If he comes in half assed then the title is up for grabs.

[beefcake]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
There is nobody alive today in the IFBB that can beat ronnie at his best.

Not if kovacs has something to say about it. :rofl:

[silentassasin]

"A Mr O has never been dethroned. I don't think the judges will let it happen" ...beefcake or anyone else correct me if im wrong im almost postive that there have been 2x where a Mr.O champ has been dethroned...it hasnt happend for a long time, but it can happen...personally i think u cant just slip bye to upset the champ it clearly has to be a knockout landslid win....which i dont think will happen....

[Timma]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
This is something I know like the back of my hand. There is nobody alive today in the IFBB that can beat ronnie at his best. Its all up to ronnie. If he comes in half assed then the title is up for grabs.

But he did come in kind of shitty last year, but so did Jay. Do you think if Jay came in better would he have won?

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by silentassasin
there have been 2x where a Mr.O champ has been dethroned...it hasnt happend for a long time, but it can happen...personally i think u cant just slip bye to upset the champ it clearly has to be a knockout landslid win....which i dont think will happen....

It happened once I believe. And if what your saying is true, how come Jay Cutler didnt beat Ronnie in 01'. He was far better then him. Lead him by many points but somehow Ronnie got the points back in the posing round. lol. In other words, all the judges agreed that Cutler had a better body on that day but Ronnie won because he could pose better. lol.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by Timma
But he did come in kind of shitty last year, but so did Jay. Do you think if Jay came in better would he have won?

Your wrong bro, Ronnie Coleman in last years O was at his all time best. 02 is when he came in shitty. Jay should have won in 01' but Ronnie beat him in the posing round. It was BS, Jay won that year in my eyes.

[MuGGsy]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
This is something I know like the back of my hand. There is nobody alive today in the IFBB that can beat ronnie at his best. Its all up to ronnie. If he comes in half assed then the title is up for grabs.

was waiting to hear your take on this :D

[beefcake]

Originally posted by silentassasin
[Bthere have been 2x where a Mr.O champ has been dethroned...it hasnt happend for a long time, [/B]

I believe you are right, i think it was zane dethroned by arnold and bannout dethroned by haney. But seriously, zane and bannout compared to arnold and haney? Zane is dethroned by a former Mr O and bannout done in by the record holder. That's like saying dexter jackson (who don't get me wrong, has an awesome physique) is going to do in coleman. Not going to happen. They're both on totally different levels.