bush...

[majoradams]

dunno if you guys have heard this
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/001455.html

[blm]

bwahahaha...he was dumbfounded....lmao

[goliath]

Originally posted by blm
bwahahaha...he was dumbfounded....lmao

ahhh...once again, the brilliance of the leader of the free world put on display.

[Bouncer]

hahhhaha, the people were laughing at him.

[comsquat]

turd

[sekcbeast]

good leader, bad public speaker. he still has my vote.

[goliath]

Originally posted by sekcbeast
good leader, bad public speaker. he still has my vote.

considering that the role of president is more a formality and figure head, he should be a great public speaker. great leaders have always been and always will be good public speakers. a good leader would know what the word sovereignty means. bush is an embarassment to the greatness of this country.

[7lok4]

considering that the role of president is more a formality and figure head, he should be a great public speaker. great leaders have always been and always will be good public speakers. a good leader would know what the word sovereignty means. bush is an embarassment to the greatness of this country.

Amen brother.

[sekcbeast]

the presidents' vocabulary does not reflect his ability to make good decisions in bad situations. i would take a president who could ensure the safety of his people rather than an indecisive smooth talking used car salesman. leadership in my mind is based on actions, not a persons speaking skills. if anyone is to be blamed, it should be the speech writters. now, im not saying that his speeches arnt amusing sometimes, i just wouldnt go as far as calling him an "embarassment".

[blm]

Originally posted by sekcbeast
the presidents' vocabulary does not reflect his ability to make good decisions in bad situations.

It's the fact that he did not know (have the knowledge) of the word sovereignty. It's not exactly an uncommon word in politics. I think it just shows how much of a puppet he is. When he was given the opportunity at free thought he fumbled all over himself.

[goliath]

Originally posted by sekcbeast
the presidents' vocabulary does not reflect his ability to make good decisions in bad situations.

i think it can be said that a persons vocabulary is generally a decent marker for the level of that persons intellect. as far as good decisions in bad situations, well, that is an entirely different can of worms that i am not going to open here. i'll just say that the record speaks for itself.

i would take a president who could ensure the safety of his people rather than an indecisive smooth talking used car salesman. [/B]

it is sometimes better to lean on the side of diplomacy than attempt to strong-arm the world into submission. i am not talking about anti-terrorist measures here either. i am talking about a blatant disregard for the balance of power that spans the globe.

leadership in my mind is based on actions, not a persons speaking skills. if anyone is to be blamed, it should be the speech writters. now, im not saying that his speeches arnt amusing sometimes, i just wouldnt go as far as calling him an "embarassment". [/B]

if the actions that you are speaking of are the same actions that have driven the deficit to an all time high, sent us to war with no money, and turned the majority of the world against us, then i suppose you have your great leader - until november anyway. and if a speech writer wrote that piece on the sovereignty of a nation, then i guess bush can't read either. wait - he has already demonstrated that, n-u-c-l-e-a-r.

[spidey]

This will be my only post on this subject. I hate discussing politics.

There was a very good theory put forward some time ago on why Bush mangles the English language like he does. I can't remember who authored it though.

He may have a type of learning disability where the auditory nerves do not correctly interpret sounds. He may actually HEAR "nucular" when someone says "nuclear". There are other symptoms he displays besides his speech as well and I think it is a pretty good theory. Mixing up similar sounding words is a classic symptom of this disability and does not impact on the intelligence of those afflicted. They can be rocket scientists but will still sound like a dumbass; it's not something they can help.

IF he does have this disability, it doesn't affect his decision making ability or his ability to lead. It just makes him a poor public speaker.

Personally, I don't really care for Bush as a president but I HATE the idea of JFK for president. Kerry has reversed himself so many times he has actually confused himself! He'll say anything he thinks we want to hear to get elected but what he does when he is elected is anyone's guess although I'm sure our taxes will go up. His retoric on what he will do about the war in Iraq is just plain silly. If he thinks he will garner any more European support for the war, he is dreaming. The Europeans' resistance to this war goes much deeper than just a dislike of GWB. The agenda of BUSH, on the other hand, is crystal clear. Say what you want about him but he has NEVER bluffed. He says what he means (whether you like it or not) and means what he says. I admire that.

I do like how Bush handled things after 9/11. I do think both Afganistan and Iraq are better off now than they were under the Taliban and SoDamn Insane.

But, it really doesn't matter what I think (or you think or Europe thinks). What really matters is what the people of those two countries think. There are elections scheduled in Afganistan so they can choose for themselves a representative government. A poll by the Associated Press showed that the great majority of common everyday Iraqis were GLAD we are there and HAPPY that Sadam is no longer in power. The AP, BTW, is generally no friend of GW. General elections are scheduled in Iraq by 2005. We are only there now at the request of the interim government of Iraq to help with security. We have already said we will leave if they ask us to. They have their sovereignty back.

I will be voting for George Bush in November because I believe in the war against terror. I am pleased with the economy (in spite of massive hits due to 9/11 and a stock market crash) and I believe I know the agenda GWB will work toward and I agree with it.

[majoradams]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spidey
[B]This will be my only post on this subject. I hate discussing politics.

There was a very good theory put forward some time ago on why Bush mangles the English language like he does. I can't remember who authored it though.

He may have a type of learning disability where the auditory nerves do not correctly interpret sounds. He may actually HEAR "nucular" when someone says "nuclear". There are other symptoms he displays besides his speech as well and I think it is a pretty good theory. Mixing up similar sounding words is a classic symptom of this disability and does not impact on the intelligence of those afflicted. They can be rocket scientists but will still sound like a dumbass; it's not something they can help.

IF he does have this disability, it doesn't affect his decision making ability or his ability to lead. It just makes him a poor public speaker.

Bullshit:D :bsflag:

[goliath]

Originally posted by majoradams

IF he does have this disability, it doesn't affect his decision making ability or his ability to lead. It just makes him a poor public speaker.

Bullshit:D :bsflag:

right. my point is that good leaders are good speakers. the ability to communicate effectively is paramount to leading any group of people. look at all the great leaders through history, they were all very effective in their rhetorical situations. MLK, Mandela, Hitler, almost countless popes, Emperor Constantine, the list goes on and on. You cannot effectively lead if you cannot effectively communicate your ideas.