News Break: Prosecuter's Drop All Charges Against Kobe

[Bouncer]

she was a slut. she was screwing guys right before and right after coby. somebody screwed her even before she went in for a rape exam if im not mistaken. if your having sex with someone else right after you got raped then she must not have been to worried about it.

here is what happened. this girls has a golden oppertunity to screw a million air super star. after thats done she has yet one more golden moment and says to herself, "hey wait a minute, i can make alot of money of this guy". so she decided to scream rape.

end of story case closed.

[Scrumhalf]

Good point, Spidey. It is a sad sordid affair and Kobe as a married man should be ashamed of his conduct, consensual or not.

[Stonecold54]

what if the other sperm was from guys that were with kobe??? ;)

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by stonecold54
what if the other sperm was from guys that were with kobe??? ;)

Shaq? :P

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by Scrumhalf
as a married man should be ashamed of his conduct, consensual or not.

thats not what was on trial though bro.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
Shaq? :P

:eek: then she would be dead, LOL

[Scrumhalf]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
thats not what was on trial though bro.

Agreed... all I am saying is that I don't know if he raped her or not and we probably will never know since the trial got dismissed, but I have lost all respect for Kobe due to his infidelity.

[bonebreaker]

Spidey--Spidey, I never said he was innocent, I thought from the first day he was probably guilty. He admitted to having sex with her, whether he forced her or not is only known by them. But, if she would have admitted that she did have consensual sex with him, that would have gotten her squat. So she had to yell RAPE, to get the bucks. My best guess is that she flirted a bit too much and it got out of hand and when he whipped out the meat whistle everything changed. But still, he was an idiot for doing it whether or not it was consensual. Not because it was the wrong thing to do since he was married, which it was, but because someone like him, with plenty of bucks is just asking for this shit. He's paying either way, he just doesn't have to go to jail and be someone's bitch. BB

[spidey]

Whether or not she had sex with other people before or after the incident with Kobe is entirely beside the point. If you grab a hooker off the street and forcebly rape her, is it rape? Of course it is. Whether or not she was a slut is beside the point. I might point out to Bouncer that whether or not she was a slut was not the focus of the trial any more than Kobe's infidelity. NO ONE (slut or not) deserves to be raped. I think she was intimidated into dropping the case out of fear for her or her family's lives. That is just WRONG no matter how you look at it.

Sana - I don't care if she bathed in some other guy's semin. It doesn't prove she wasn't raped. Rape Shield Laws are designed to protect victims from this very kind of diversion into their private lives. This case has had a real chilling effect on rape victims everywhere. It has proven that the Rape Shield laws are a joke and if you come forward with a rape allegation, your life will be destroyed by the very people who are supposed to help you find justice. Knowing that, would you come forward? Would you willingly subject yourself and your private life to that kind of public scrutiny; to very real threats against your life or that of people you love? I bet many will re-think that plan and choose to just "get over it" and live their lives. When is it right to punish the accuser (perhaps victim) of such a heinous crime while the perpetrator gets nothing?

In my opinion, the only thing worse than rape is rape of a child. People convicted of either of those crimes don't deserve the status of a human being; they are animals. If I could be in the room alone with a rapist for just 10 minutes, I think my life would be truly complete and I could die a happy man. His mother would cry when she saw what I would do to him.

[spidey]

Originally posted by bonebreaker
Spidey--Spidey, I never said he was innocent, I thought from the first day he was probably guilty. He admitted to having sex with her, whether he forced her or not is only known by them. But, if she would have admitted that she did have consensual sex with him, that would have gotten her squat. So she had to yell RAPE, to get the bucks. My best guess is that she flirted a bit too much and it got out of hand and when he whipped out the meat whistle everything changed. But still, he was an idiot for doing it whether or not it was consensual. Not because it was the wrong thing to do since he was married, which it was, but because someone like him, with plenty of bucks is just asking for this shit. He's paying either way, he just doesn't have to go to jail and be someone's bitch. BB

Where have you seen her asking for money? They didn't even bring the civil suit until it was looking like she would drop the criminal charges. Maybe they were trying to make him pay SOMETHING at least instead of getting off scott free.

[sana]

Originally posted by spidey
Whether or not she had sex with other people before or after the incident with Kobe is entirely beside the point.

i think that it is entirely the point. there were injuries to her that she claims are from forced sex with kobe. yet, having found other men's sperm on/in/around her says that she was having sex with multiple partners. how can you say that the injuries were definitely from forced sex with kobe? it raises a very valid point that is exactly why she's being called a slut. that within hours of being "raped" she went out and had sex with someone else - that to me does not seem very much like someone who was traumatized by rape.

none of the rape shield laws have been over turned - so i'm not sure why it's had a "chilling effect" on victim's rights. but i do think it exposes the fact that sometimes, these laws go too far in protecting the "victim's rights" and forget about the fact that just because she has accused someone of rape, does not mean that is fact. does the defendant not have rights as well to question whether the woman has alterior motives? to question whether her past behavior has an impact on her current actions? whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? it sounds like in cases of rape, based on the rape shield laws, that the accused is always considered the guilty party. the burden of proof should be on the prosecution - not the defense. that's what i don't understand about the current state of the laws.

and to be honest, if she never filed a civil suit asking for money - i may be more inclined to believe that he was wrong. but as soon as the civil suit was filed, my opinion was solidified that she's after money.

but then again, like i said, i've already formed my opinion on this case, i would never be selected to be on this jury b/c i cannot be impartial to this woman.

[Shibby]

I'll tell you what spidey, it is some scary shit when you havn't done anything wrong and you get accused. When you first hear those words sexual harrasement (as it was in my case) it feels like the whole world comes to a stop. During my freshaman year of highschool a friend and I were football managers. We worked with the football team doing ankle taping, fixing equipment, ect. Anyways there were probably about 4 guys in this class and 6 girls. Well these two girls would flirt with us alot, some of the football players and we defianatly flirted back. Occasianaly in the laundry room when everyone was out on the field or whatever, it would go into a little kissing and touching. Well those two girls were also skipping alot. When the coaches went to get them removed from the class the two said they hadn't been coming to class because they are getting sexually harrased. When the fingers were pointed they named us. I don't think the feeling can be described in words. But the coaches aprroached us and told us what was going on. Nothing furthere than that came of it since there were plenty of others that had seen what was going on. The coaches just gave us a life lesson in being careful when it comes to women. Nothing about woman being bad, just that you have to be careful with the oppisoite sex not to offend them. If he is inocent I feel for him, if not then he hopefuly will get what's coming to him when he least expects it.

[Shibby]

Originally posted by sana
i think that it is entirely the point. there were injuries to her that she claims are from forced sex with kobe. yet, having found other men's sperm on/in/around her says that she was having sex with multiple partners. how can you say that the injuries were definitely from forced sex with kobe?

Not to mention just the fact of having multiple partners in a short amount of time can cause minor trauma/injury.

[bonebreaker]

Originally posted by spidey
Where have you seen her asking for money? They didn't even bring the civil suit until it was looking like she would drop the criminal charges. Maybe they were trying to make him pay SOMETHING at least instead of getting off scott free.

Of course I haven't seen money exchanged, just as I haven't seen PAC money being paid under the table to politicians, but I'm not blind nor stupid, I know it happens. This case was dropped soley and entirely because a deal was struck for money. If she would have been frightened for her family or herself, she never would have brought the matter up to start with. Yes, rape is rape, and it's a horrible violation of someone. But, scamming someone for money is also wrong, as is being able to pay your way out of a crime just because you can. How many times has Michael Jackson been accused of molestation and the like, and how many times did the case(s) just go away? EVERYTIME! WHY? He paid them off, just as Kobe did in this case. You mentioned earlier about a poor black from the ghetto, or some other person of no means being in a situation like this and that they surely would be convicted post haste. True, they have no money, they go to jail. Of course, Kobe has money, so he doesn't go. It was always about the money in this case, period. BB

[spidey]

Originally posted by bonebreaker
Of course I haven't seen money exchanged, just as I haven't seen PAC money being paid under the table to politicians, but I'm not blind nor stupid, I know it happens. This case was dropped soley and entirely because a deal was struck for money. If she would have been frightened for her family or herself, she never would have brought the matter up to start with. Yes, rape is rape, and it's a horrible violation of someone. But, scamming someone for money is also wrong, as is being able to pay your way out of a crime just because you can. How many times has Michael Jackson been accused of molestation and the like, and how many times did the case(s) just go away? EVERYTIME! WHY? He paid them off, just as Kobe did in this case. You mentioned earlier about a poor black from the ghetto, or some other person of no means being in a situation like this and that they surely would be convicted post haste. True, they have no money, they go to jail. Of course, Kobe has money, so he doesn't go. It was always about the money in this case, period. BB

You haven't even heard of her asking for money, little lone seen money exchanged. When it first started out, she thought Rape shield laws would protect her identity (as they were designed). Had she realized what would happen, I don't think she would have brought the case in the first place. After her identity was splashed all over the headlines and the death threats started rolling in, THAT'S when she became afraid for her life and THAT is why she eventually dropped the charges.

My sister was raped when she was 13 years old by an older boy in the neighborhood. Non of us ever knew about it until just a couple years ago (she is 41 now). The reason? The boy threatened MY life if she told. How do you think that makes me feel? Her chair at the dinner table faced the window and this creep would stand outside holding up a shotgun for her to see. He also forced her at gunpoint to make a tape in which she said it was consensual. How do you think that case would have gone in court (assuming I survived)?

Unfortunately, the bastard is already dead. He died in a house fire more than 20 yrs ago. Someday, I will go back to Illinois and take a big old dump on his grave.