Vote Bush.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by Keiser
LoL Goliath doesn't have a chance, he lives in Texas, he'll be wasting his time if he even takes the time to vote. :D

I can see him standing in line to vote trying to change all the Texans minds. :rofl:

[jaypee]

Originally posted by spidey
I don't know what country you live in but all economic indicators are at nearly all time highs. Unemployment is the lowest it has been in a decade or more at 5.4% (only 5.6% during Clinton's terms and everyone thought that was wonderful).

I know you are a smart guy but I have a question "Where do you get your statistics"???? There have been so many fucking jobs lost overseas since Bush took office its not even funny. Companies are outsourcing engineering, math, and other technical positions overseas. This trend is going to ruin us. I seriously question your numbers or the person that gave them to you.

Anyone doing IT related work can verify there aren't shit for jobs out there. I used to get 20 calls a week for employment. I maybe have 1 recruiter a month sniff me out now. The economy is in shambles dude. We have the largest deficit of all time. One dollar won't even buy a euro any more. Seriously, if you think conditions are good, you must live in an isolated environment somewhere apart from the rest of America.

[jaypee]

Originally posted by Keiser
LoL Goliath doesn't have a chance, he lives in Texas, he'll be wasting his time if he even takes the time to vote. :D

I am in Texas too. And there are more people in Texas that think like me and Goliath than you think.

[voneber]

I was watching something a month or so back when it comes to the outsourcing of the IT jobs.... people in India who have masters and PhDs are getting paid about $1800.00 a year vs the $30000.00 or more it takes to pay one person here to do the same job.......... Now that's a Global Economy

(and yes I do work in the IT field)

[pudgy]

the president has about as much to do with the economy as he does with time travel.

w-04 :)

[spidey]

Originally posted by jaypee
I know you are a smart guy but I have a question "Where do you get your statistics"???? There have been so many fucking jobs lost overseas since Bush took office its not even funny. Companies are outsourcing engineering, math, and other technical positions overseas. This trend is going to ruin us. I seriously question your numbers or the person that gave them to you.

Anyone doing IT related work can verify there aren't shit for jobs out there. I used to get 20 calls a week for employment. I maybe have 1 recruiter a month sniff me out now. The economy is in shambles dude. We have the largest deficit of all time. One dollar won't even buy a euro any more. Seriously, if you think conditions are good, you must live in an isolated environment somewhere apart from the rest of America.

I got my statistics right off CNN when the jobs report was published last week. Look it up. The numbers speak for themselves. 144000 jobs created in the month of August alone.

Outsourcing is a red herring. "Foreign companies have created millions of jobs in the United States, far outpacing the amount of work that American businesses have shifted abroad", Labor Secretary Elaine Chao said Wednesday, Sept. 1, 2004. American companies shifted about 300,000 jobs overseas last year. Foreign companies employ some 9,000,000 Americans here in the USA. If we isolate our economy (stop outsourcing), we put in jeapordy over 9 million jobs here in America. We are not an island; we are part of a global economy.

During the first 3 months of this year, outsourcing accounted for 2% of the jobs lost during that time (Labor Dept.) That means 98% of the jobs lost were due to other factors. Outsourcing is not nearly the problem the dems want you to believe and has been going on for decades. It wasn't started during Bush's term and it won't end with it either. It is the normal way of doing buisness. Do a search for "outsourcing" and see how many sites you find offering to teach you (as a buisness owner) how to outsource to develop your company.

[Keiser]

Originally posted by jaypee
I am in Texas too. And there are more people in Texas that think like me and Goliath than you think.

So, you're gonna waste your time too?

[jaypee]

Originally posted by Keiser
So, you're gonna waste your time too?

No, I am going to stand up for what I believe in. I am concerned about the country as a whole. Republicans only seem to be concerned with themselves.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by jaypee
Republicans only seem to be concerned with themselves.

So democrats are concerned with the nation but republicans only for themselves? Sounds more like, "think my way or I will put you down.".

[jaypee]

Originally posted by spidey
I got my statistics right off CNN when the jobs report was published last week. Look it up. The numbers speak for themselves. 144000 jobs created in the month of August alone.

This is rhetoric. 144000 jobs. Of what caliber? 1000 new janitorial positions aren't the same thing as 1000 civil engineering jobs.

How many small business owners went out of business? These people can't get unemployment benefits (which I am sure this is where these figures are derived). Your unemployment figures only account for people getting money off the government tit. If I lose my job, I can't go to the government for help. I am fucked.

In the last four years, I have been unemployed almost a total of 8 months. I was forced to spend my savings (which I was going to use to get that "house" you were talking about) to put food on the table. I have made less money each since Bush took office.

For those of you who say the President has as much to do with the economy as time travel....seriously, wake up. He has everything to do with it. The economic climate of today is a direct result of Bush's policies (Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.). This guy doesn't have the skills necessary to manage a McDonald's, let alone the most powerful nation in the world.

[FX4]

How about them Astros??? Phil Garner for President!!! :rofl:

[jaypee]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
So democrats are concerned with the nation but republicans only for themselves? Sounds more like, "think my way or I will put you down.".

Not at all. All I ask is that people THINK in the first place.

[meat12]

Originally posted by FX4
How about them Astros???

they'll fall off...




i hope:(

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by jaypee
Not at all. All I ask is that people THINK in the first place.

in otherwords if your a republican you dont think?

[Luftdude]

Vote in General Tommy Franks! :rofl:

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