Who's in the Wrong?

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by beefcake
You'd be surprised how the law favors women. Buddy of mine got screwed when his ex was clawing at him, he pushed her off of him. She hit her head on the side walk and she called the cops. Her and her friend said he pushed her and off to jail and anger management he goes. He tells the cops, well what about all these scratches and shit she gave me, I want to press charges too. Nope, they tell him too bad, and he should've made his claim before she did. What kind of bullshit justice system are we being governed by? Now he is permanently barred from becoming a correctional officer because they count it as domestic abuse.

yeah you can only commit felonies AFTER you get hired. then the union is so powerful they can never fire you. LOL

[sana]

Originally posted by rude

Im sure if you were minding your own business and some man started bothering you, you would be wishing bouncer would whoop his ass even though he didnt physically hurt you, only verbally.

no, honestly - i wouldn't. i would walk away. i would not want bouncer involved b/c i would know that he couldn't keep a level head.

why does it come to you to assume that i would wish violence on someone who was bothering me? please give me more credit than that.

[scartissue]

The bottom line is that she got exactly what she wanted! It's just like high school, you walk right up to someone and call them out. "Hey your white or hey your black" that is just what she did "hey you are voting for Bush! WTF? true enough the guy should have never touched her.

[sana]

Originally posted by beefcake
I'm not saying it's about man vs woman. It's anybody, any gender in general. If you're going to talk shit, be ready to own up to the consequences. Don't start something with the intentions of turning tail and running to your nearest police officer like a pussy. If someone is talking shit to me, why the hell should I be the one to walk away like a little fairy. I don't run from situations. I can understand what you're trying to say, but that "be the bigger man" saying doesn't work all the time. People who believe in that are someday going to be in for a rude awakening.

no, it's people like you who are going to be in for a rude awakening when you're picked up in the back of a police car.

seriously, like i said, it's not about being a "fairy" if you walk away. nor does it mean you're lesser or a man or a woman. it's unfortunate that you have this type of perspective - that if you walk away from a bad situation, that you're a pussy. i feel sorry for your girlfriend the day she has to go bail you out for doing something instead of just walking away.

it's about being protective of yourself. you do not win in any situation by acting out on other people.

[Stonecold54]

Well I will interject on what I would do (not that I would ever be caught dead in a bush shirt, LOL). If she did something like that to me I would smile. Nothing hurts more than someone who won't react the way you want them too. would I let someone touch me, no. would I turn my back on someone that angry? no. I agree with Sana. there is no reason for violence except to protect oneself or family. Just think of it this way, do you want to be the person that gives into someone esle and lets them control you intstead of you controlling yourself?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by sana
no, it's people like you who are going to be in for a rude awakening when you're picked up in the back of a police car.

seriously, like i said, it's not about being a "fairy" if you walk away. nor does it mean you're lesser or a man or a woman. it's unfortunate that you have this type of perspective - that if you walk away from a bad situation, that you're a pussy. i feel sorry for your girlfriend the day she has to go bail you out for doing something instead of just walking away.

it's about being protective of yourself. you do not win in any situation by acting out on other people.

Clearly you're using the law as back up like she was. I never said I would've decked her, but I can see where everyone is coming from when they say they would've. There are people out there who could give two shits about going to jail. I happen to know plenty of them. People who feel like the thought of going to jail is going to intimidate these people are not going to like the end result. I happen to know someone who is in jail right now because of attempted murder cause his bitch hit him with a frying pan. Does he give a shit about going to jail. Not at all. He's in and out all the time. I can only imagine what's going to go down when he gets out. There are people out there like this who are fucked up in their heads. People like this woman are going to find themselves messing with the wrong person someday.

[sana]

Originally posted by beefcake
Clearly you're using the law as back up like she was. I never said I would've decked her, but I can see where everyone is coming from when they say they would've. There are people out there who could give two shits about going to jail. I happen to know plenty of them. People who feel like the thought of going to jail is going to intimidate these people are not going to like the end result. I happen to know someone who is in jail right now because of attempted murder cause his bitch hit him with a frying pan. Does he give a shit about going to jail. Not at all. He's in and out all the time. I can only imagine what's going to go down when he gets out. There are people out there like this who are fucked up in their heads. People like this woman are going to find themselves messing with the wrong person someday.

well, those types of people are clearly out of the mainstream. i am talking about your average american who's got a good job, family, and a life to think about.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by beefcake
People like this woman are going to find themselves messing with the wrong person someday.

yup. The chick got lucky that it wasnt like across the border from my city, one shot and shes dead. People dont take shit.

[JUICE]

Originally posted by sana
i am talking about your average american who's got a good job, family, and a life to think about.

those are the number 1 things I will never let go off. Family comes first to me, then my job. Thats why i say people aint worth it:)

[beefcake]

Originally posted by JUICE
yup. The chick got lucky that it wasnt like across the border from my city, one shot and shes dead. People dont take shit.:D

I'm sure you know how it goes down in mexico. I've heard stories about guys having machete fights with their sandals on their arms as shields. Here in cali, there are so many with that mentality that you just don't know who you're fucking with anymore.

i am talking about your average american who's got a good job, family, and a life to think about.

Look at how the prison populations are growing every year, shows that these kind of people are more average than you think.

[sana]

Originally posted by beefcake

Look at how the prison populations are growing every year, shows that these kind of people are more average than you think.

well, i would then simply choose not to assoicate myself with people of that sort.

not to sound like a snob, but you are what you surround yourself with.

[beefcake]

Originally posted by sana
well, i would then simply choose not to assoicate myself with people of that sort.

not to sound like a snob, but you are what you surround yourself with.

I wouldn't have been cleared for the correctional officer academy if the behavior of these people had rubbed off on me, so I can't say that that statement holds true.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by beefcake
I wouldn't have been cleared for the correctional officer academy if the behavior of these people had rubbed off on me, so I can't say that that statement holds true.

I had enough of this horse shit conversation. We are who we chose to be. If you want to be a piece of shit thug then thats what you are. If you choose to carry yourself in a better manner then thats what you turn out to be. Men and women handle things differently. If some guy is all up in my face im going to break his face. A women would be more likely to walk away. Just how it is.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by JUICE
yup. The chick got lucky that it wasnt like across the border from my city, one shot and shes dead. People dont take shit.:D

why do you put a smiley at the end of that sentence. do you think thats cool that people get shot and killed? you sound like your 15 years old when you say shit like that and then put a smiley at the end. and what the hell would this lady be across the border in mexico for if she was at a rally for president of the US. think before you say things juice.

[beefcake]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
why do you put a smiley at the end of that sentence. do you think thats cool that people get shot and killed? you sound like your 15 years old when you say shit like that and then put a smiley at the end. and what the hell would this lady be across the border in mexico for if she was at a rally for president of the US. think before you say things juice.

I think he was more making a point that you'll never see someone try to bait someone into taking a swing at you in a country like mexico, cause the law isn't going to be there to bail their ass out.