Anyone ever seen the movie Thirteen?

[Shibby]

It's a crazy movie about some teen girls that go bad when they reach junior high. If I was having a daughter it would freak me out.

Puddles- have you seen it and if so what do you think of it? With you being a liberal person and maybe parent.


It has a feel/reminds me of the movie Kids from 1995

[SloppyJo]

ive seen it... pretty messed up shit

[Severedties]

deffinitely a disturbing movie. Wouldnt recommend it to anyone who has younger kids.

[Taylor]

i have no kids, i liked the movie...i thought it was better then kids, i don't get all the hoopla about that movie, "ken park" and some of larry clark's other flicks are much "innapproriate" then kids to say the least.....ken park is borderline porn, has a kid masterbate to a tennis match then go kill his grandparents, another kid shoots himself in the head in a skatepark, one kid who is supposed to be like 15 is having sex with his girlfriends mom, one kids dad is sexually abusing him.....the whole movie is crazy stuff like that, and all the sex is real it's not hollywood, its vivid video

[johnstephenson]

Yup its messed

[therock]

I have seen Kids and 13 but not Ken Park. But I liked both because it showed reality not BS. Shows how kids can turn bad and both movies have a good moral to them.

[Puddles]

Nope, I haven't seen it. While I may appear liberal to some, I'm not when it comes to my child. I am strict when it comes to morals and behaviour. I have been fortunate so far in having a good kid, never even had to spank her (good communication skills even at a young age helped), but I nip things in the bud before they become problems. She talked back to me once and was immediately punnished, never did it again. She knows if she tells the truth I will try to understand and a worse punnishment will come if she lies. I expect truthfulnes and respect for us (her parents), herself and others, with those things, almost everything else falls into place easilly. We have a great relationship with her and although she's 13 and quite social with her friends, she hasn't given us any reason to doubt her or mistrust her. I can only hope this continues. I don't know how I'd handle a "problem" child, that's probably why mother nature only gave me this one. She's shared with me stories of her friensds who've had sex already or who wants to, who smokes pot/cigs, who drinks...and last night I had to go pick up her friend who ran away from home who's living with her verbally abusive mother after the divorce from a physically abusive father and brothers. I recently read a diary thing she was keeping and seeing what was in there gave me added security that I'm not blindfully trusting her, she is actually being honest and open with me.

I believe in giving kids some freedom and allowing them to make mistakes so they can learn from them but it's when they don't learn, when the parents don't take charge of a situation, that things can quickly spiral out of control. Many parents don't know what's going on in their kid's lives and their friends, I try to keep up with that stuff the best I can while letting her have some freedom.

[Shibby]

Does she know you read the diary?

[Puddles]

Does she know you read the diary?

No. It was left out on the sofa in the family room, not under lock and key though. I didn't go searching for it and it was not a typical looking diary so technically I didn't do anything wrong by openning it. I also felt kinda bad for reading it but she is still a minor and my responsibility, as long as she lives with me I will do whatever I feel is right, even if that means reading a diary.

[Shibby]

I have thought about that recently. I don't like the idea of "spying" but like you said, they are your kids. I guess I will find out what I will and need to do when the time comes.

[Puddles]

I have thought about that recently. I don't like the idea of "spying" but like you said, they are your kids. I guess I will find out what I will and need to do when the time comes.

If you spy and find that things are fine, that just gives you more faith in the child and a feeling of security. If you spy and find something wrong, then you are right for spying because now you have a chance to help correct a problem.

Like I said, I didn't feel right doing it but in hindsight, I'm glad I did.

Her friends's mom read her diary and found some stuff in it that needed to be adressed. My daughter asked me if she had a diary, would I read it? I told her I would read it if I was worried that something bad was going on. She understood where I was coming from.

If I saw my daughter's diary again, this time I wouldn't be so inclined to read it now. Of course that may change in the future.

[blm]

You sound like a great mom. You approach things a lot like my mother did.

[Puddles]

I love being a mom. I'm trying not to repeat the mistakes my mother made. Being a parent isn't black and white, there are so many varriables, you can just hope you do the best for the particular child because what works for one doesn't always work for another.