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  • Death Penalty Yes

    All those of you who don't support the death penalty, I cannot see how after seeing this.

    http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html

  • #2
    Originally posted by beefcake
    All those of you who don't support the death penalty, I cannot see how after seeing this.

    http://www.murdervictims.com/Voices/jeneliz.html
    I'll always support the death penalty. I do feel that the way they kill someone should reflect on how that person murdered whoever. In that case you have shown those guys should be strung up by belts and their family jewels cut off and left to bleed to death....in the middle of downtown Houston!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bad14u
      I'll always support the death penalty. I do feel that the way they kill someone should reflect on how that person murdered whoever. In that case you have shown those guys should be strung up by belts and their family jewels cut off and left to bleed to death....in the middle of downtown Houston!
      For sure. I don't think the death penalty is harsh enough. The punishment should reflect the crime. We need more vigilante's in this world.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by beefcake
        We need more vigilante's in this world.
        :bravonew: Where do I sign up?

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        • #5
          ive allways been a supporter of the death penalty. I also belive that the means of it should be as close to the way the person was killed as possible.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FitnessBrat
            I don't think that people opposed to the death penalty necessarily think these individuals deserved to go on with life, it's just that they don't see how two wrongs make a right. They feel that we aren't really any better than them by executing them. It doesn't bring back the victims, and unfortunately it costs more money than life in prison. It's sort of like, you shouldn't teach your kids not to hit by hitting them.
            I believe in "an eye for an eye." Perhaps it doesn't change anything, but I personally would feel better that revenge was taken. I wonder if people would still commit heinous crimes if the punishment taken reflected the crime commited.

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            • #7
              I fail to see how anyone could call the death penalty inhumane for crimes such as this. The whole "two wrongs don't make a right" thing is the dumbest bunch of crap I've ever heard. (no offense to Fitnessbrat, I know you were just using that as a reference) The problem isn't revenge. It's justice. Giving these "people" (and I use that term loosely) a place to live, food to eat, health care and recreational activities is like a slap in the face for the victim's families. If you don't want to kill them, throw them in a pit for the rest of their lives. Let them live with their own shit...literally. Makes me sick.

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              • #8
                I don't think that people opposed to the death penalty necessarily think these individuals deserved to go on with life, it's just that they don't see how two wrongs make a right.
                I dont think it makes it right, but in my book even if two wrongs dont make a right they sure as hell make it even.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FitnessBrat
                  I'm not a revenge type person, I don't think trying to get back at someone that's done me wrong is going to make me feel any better, but.....I agree. I think if I had a teenage daughter, and something heinous happened to her, I would do anything I could to see that the offender die.
                  I don't think the crime rate would be as high. It's not this high in other countries that have harsher penalties.
                  :bravonew: When I first started reading your post I was already getting ready to say...'Wait and see if you feel that way if it happens to your child", but then you finished up like a champ! :P
                  Last edited by bad14u; 12-02-05, 08:37 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by babyblues
                    It's justice. Giving these "people" (and I use that term loosely) a place to live, food to eat, health care and recreational activities is like a slap in the face for the victim's families. If you don't want to kill them, throw them in a pit for the rest of their lives. Let them live with their own shit...literally. Makes me sick.
                    :bravonew:

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                    • #11
                      While I believe that certain people have forfeited their right to life by the actions they commit, I do not believe that a government has a right to kill it's citizens.

                      There is a famous case in Canada of a guy who spent 23 years in jail for murders he didn't commit...can you imagine if we had executed him?

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                      • #12
                        i belive in killing ppl who do shit like that but i also feel they get off easy when u kill them its 1 second of last minute thoguhts then nothing they wont have 50 years or whatever to contemplate there actions i feel making everyday jsut as bad as it was for the victim is the way to go totally unthinkable acts on the person who dod the shit would be pretty good idear in my book sodomize them with really fucked up objects having rats naw at ur body till theres nothing left shit along them lines would be preferable imo ....

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                        • #13
                          i did a really large project on capital punishment a few years ago and found some startling statistics; the most amazing being that a study was done which concluded that ONE OUT OF EVERY 6 people that have been executed in the US later turned out to be innocent. secondly, the vast majority of murders arent premeditated, well thought out acts, but rather crimes of passion, jealousy or revenge when an average person was temporarily blinded and irrationalised by rage. it really isnt fair to use the above example to support to the death penalty because that sort of act accounts for a very small percentage of murders and really plays with peoples emotions. furthermore, the process of execution is often MUCH worse than the crime they commited... if you do some research on this, its really disgusting what can often happen during executions, not just with electricution but lethal injection as well. i think the fact that many innocent people have been wrongfully put to death for crimes they never commited is enough for most people to dissagree with capital punishment... my 2 cents

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                          • #14
                            i like what Jordan had to say and agree with his points.

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                            • #15
                              I stand opposed to the death penalty -- even in light of this crime -- but I will make a few statements

                              1. there are certainly some crimes that are unusually heinous, and would normally be deserving of some sort of special punishment

                              HOWEVER, as the State of Virginia prepared to execute the 1,000th person since the death penalty was brought back in 1976, I became aware of a few facts

                              2. the argument that the death penalty serves as a deterrent to such heinous crimes is flawed; in states that have no death penalty, there have still been remarkable drops in murder rates

                              3. several death-row inmates, convicted before the advent of DNA testing in capital crimes, have since been released based on scientific evidence finally able to prove their innocence

                              4. the death penalty isn't necessary always reserved for the most heinous of crimes; often criminals from minority backgrounds are executed, as are those who cannot afford legal counsel to wade through the technicalities of a first-degree murder proceeding, and instead have a public defendant

                              SO...I am not really saying that killing criminals is a bad idea. Rather, I think the power to put someone to death is too great a power to be vested in the body politic. Mistakes are, and certainly have been made, and innocent people have been executed. It is for this reason that I think the death penalty should be abolished

                              the United States is the ONLY (that's right...only) NATO country that still executes criminals...Turkey abolished the death penalty a few years ago; it was the only other NATO country with the death penalty

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