Students Arrested For Oral Sex In Classroom

[urso8up]

JACKSONVILLE, FL -- Three First Coast students are facing criminal charges after a teacher says they were involved in oral sex in the classroom.

Christopher Lemay, 18, is accused of paying a 16-year-old-girl to perform the act on another boy at Sandalwood High. Those two are under-age, so First Coast News is not releasing their identities.

Sandalwood administrators say the act happened under a table in a large class full of students, so the teacher had limited visibility.

The news is catching even veteran educators by surprise.

"It is not indicative of any school in Duval County," said Acting Principal Jack Shanklin.

"I've been in education a long time and I have never seen a situation like this in any educational setting," he said.

All three students have been assigned to alternative schools.

[Bouncer]

Why would he pay her to perform on someone else?

thats was i was about to type. if im going to pay someone its going to be for me! the kid must be a fag.

[infiniti1982]

It's a shocking act, but I'm not surprised in the least that this kind of stuff happens.

[Puma]

Is it really that shocking?

We know that kids are doing it at that age (and MUCH younger as well), so is it really shocking that people do it in the classroom? Shit, I got jerked off in the back of a classroom once. So what? I went on to graduate with over a 4.0 GPA (don't ask, GPA's are total BS in high school) and get accepted to a bunch of good colleges. However, had I been sent to alternative school, that probably would have been the end of my college life; and I never would have gotten to where I am today.

Is it really that bad? They are just doing what we all do, and chose a bad place to do it (shit, I have had sex in some pretty risky places before!) and got caught. Should they be punished this harshly??

[SloppyJo]

haha, some kid got caught jerkin it in class in 7th grade by the teacher

[go Yankees]

where did you go to school puma?

[Severedties]

I agree that it is not appropriate. I dont think all 3 should be expelled though. Possibly suspended or something, but to get kicked out of school for it, seems a bit extreme.

[Puma]

That's really my point. Yeah, its not appropriate. Neither is the languague they use in the hallways. Or most of the clothes that they wear. But their KIDS, they don't always make good decsions. To ruin their lives for something where nobody is hurt/dead/in danger seems really stupid to me. Shit, if you beat somebody up in HS (at least where I went to school) you were suspended, not sent to alternate school. I think its alot worse to beat the hell out of someone (and worse for moral) then get a fucking blowjob under the table.

But hey, that's our society, sex is viewed as worse the violence. And look at what's it gotten us. An out of control number of prego teens and the most violent country in the civilized world. Bravo!

Oh, btw, I went to school in S. Jersey (to answer the question). It was a pretty normal sized school, about 2000 kids in 9-12 grade.

I agree that it is not appropriate. I dont think all 3 should be expelled though. Possibly suspended or something, but to get kicked out of school for it, seems a bit extreme.

[SloppyJo]

the most violent country in the civilized world. Bravo!

That's completely wrong. England, Canada, Austrailia, France or Germany all have a more violent civilization than the US.

[meat12]

Man I couldn't even pay woman for head in highschool..damn:D

[Lmg2701]

thats was i was about to type. if im going to pay someone its going to be for me!

:agree:

[Puma]

Using what measure? I have read this time and time again, I don't feel like putting together all the sources, but here is a one that I have bookmarked:

http://www.sayno.com/violence.html

Here is are the highlights:

America is, by far, the most violent country in the world when measured against comparable, industrialized nations.

and

International Comparisons of Homicide Rates
Males, 15-24 years of age
1988 - 1991
Homicides per 100,000 population

United States-----------------------------------------37.2
Italy---------------4.3
New Zealand-----4.2
Israel--------------3.7
Australia----------3.6
Finland------------3.3
Scotland-----------3.1
Portugal-----------2.3
Poland-------------2.0
Ireland-------------1.8
Austria-------------1.6
Spain---------------1.5
Sweden------------1.5
Norway------------1.5
Netherlands-------1.3
Denmark-----------1.3
Greece-------------1.3
Switzerland--------1.2
Germany-----------1.1
France--------------0.9
Canada-------------0.9
England/Wales----0.6
Japan---------------0.5

Sources: National Center for Health Statistics, Vital Statistics, 1991;
World Statistics Annuals, 1991 and 1992, Geneva: World Health Organization


Watch the Michael Moore film about this; that's where I started to realize how insane we look to the rest of the world. I think it was Farenhight 9/11 but it may have been another film, I don't remember. Either way, those stats are from the World Health Organization, I am sure they are legit.

That's completely wrong. England, Canada, Austrailia, France or Germany all have a more violent civilization than the US.

[SloppyJo]

A couple things wrong with your study. Your only including males between the ages of 15-24... what about the other 85% of the population? And your study is almost 15 years old. Get something recent... you know in this decade.

http://www.slimindustries.com/~bowli.../countries.htm
read this website

In the midst of his condemnations of sensationalism media that scares viewers by reporting on violence, Moore simultaneously tells us that the United States is a blood bath in comparison to the rest of the civilized world who are just like us on other issues.

It should definitely be reassuring to citizens of the USA that according to the United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute (UNICRI), The United States consistently ranks behind Canada in crime victimization statistics for developed countries. You are more likely to be the victim of a crime in England, Canada, Australia, France or Germany than in this violent hellhole of a country of ours.

In Bowling, Moore does not use population corrected data, nor does he cite his sources (he later does in his wacko attacko response) and furthermore, uses different reporting methods for the different countries.

HAHAHAHAH.... you actually believe the garbage Michael Moore puts in his films...

Mr. Moore and his staff were not immediately available for comment via an email address listed on the film's website, so it is still unclear to me exactly what the numbers represent. However, what is clear is that they are highly inaccurate and unrepresentative of the true differences in the homicide rates between the listed countries.

This fact can be verified by checking official international crime statistics, which are archived on the website of Interpol, an international police organization, at www.interpol.int. The explicit link to the Interpol reports as well as copies of the calculations I am about to describe (in Excel, html and text formats) are publicly accessible at www.princeton.edu/~eharkler.

For each of countries listed in the preview for Mr. Moore's film, I looked up both the number of homicides and the population in the year 2000. I then normalized the homicide rate to homicides per 100,000 people. For example, in 2000 there were 2,770 homicides in Germany among a total population of 82,163,475. This yields 2770/ 82,163,475 * 100,000 = 3.37 homicides per 100,000 people in the year 2000. Similar calculations for each of the countries listed allow us to compare the homicide rates in the different countries and to perform a check of Mr. Moore's numbers.

According to Mr. Moore's numbers, the homicide rate in the U.S. is 30 times greater than that of Germany, and 285 times greater than that of Japan. However, based on Interpol statistics for 2000, these numbers are actually 1.64 and 5.03, respectively — a difference which is not due to technical or statistical error, but likely to a creative and narrow choice of source data on Mr. Moore's part. Most likely Mr. Moore's numbers are not actually fabricated, but rather chosen from a year in which the homicide rate in the U.S. relative to other countries was unusually high and not representative of the average over time. As the Interpol data for 2000 shows, a broader perspective might yield more sober results.

[Puma]

Well, the data that I have read (and posted) referred only to homocide, not violence in general. I have a problem with those stats because thats very subjective (what is included as violence?). For example, rape may be reported as violence in some countries but not others. Homocide is pretty cut and dry, your either dead or your not.

I am not looking to make a hard and fast point here, I just wanted to cite where I have read this kind of information before. I am not saying that your stats are not valid, I just think that some of the stats out there point to a serious violence problem in this country, especially homocide.

I realize that there is pressure from the liberal media to try to spin this in a way that potrays the US as a crazy, psycho voilent country; so I do not doubt that there is some "selective sampling" done here. However, I think that the point is valid that, among civilized countries we are very violent contry. Are we number 1? I think that is debatable. Are we top 5? I think the answer there is almost without question a yes. Which is very interesting given that we practice the ultimate punishment here (execution) which is supposed to be a deterrent from this kind of activity.

I do not agree with everything (probably not even most) that MM says, however I think that he makes valid points; the US is supposed to be the "model" for other countries trying to be civilalized, and yet we do not adhere to our own model as well as many others.

[Motorcycleguy]

That's completely wrong. England, Canada, Austrailia, France or Germany all have a more violent civilization than the US.

Canada is definitely not concidered a violent country.... for fuck sakes we don't even have a real army. We are the friendly neighbours, not the violent nation. I live in Vancouver, and just recently we had a murder in a nightclub, this got front page on virtually every newspaper because it is so rare. I do admit that our nation has been getting much more violent with each passing year, but from what I have seen/ know of the US, I do not see us as even close. This is my two cents, just needed to put it in there.