Liddell vs. Couture 3.....who wins?

[Lmg2701]

Who's your pick? I'm undecided.....

[beefcake]

If couture does what he did the first time and just clinch and throw liddell all over the ring and actually take him to the ground, then I say couture, if he tries to stand with him or if liddell stabs him in the eye again, then I say chuck takes it. I think randy will get smart this time and take liddell down to the mat. I say randy takes his belt back.

[slipshady]

If Liddell can stay on his feet i think it will be all him if not Randy has it. Im a huge Liddell fan so i hope he retains it.

[BJJ PitBull]

Couture wont win this.

Their 1st fight Randy was coming off 2 losses, dropping a wieght class, and turning 40.
Chuck was coming off an 11 win streak and had basically beaten everyone there was to beat.
Everyone including the UFC thought this would be an easy fight for Chuck and he would go on to face Tito for the title.

My point is that i dont care what Chuck says, he took Randy lightly, and gave him no respect......in the 2nd fight Chuck knew what he was up against and what Randy was capable of and he took care of business. Chuck will never come unprepared against someone like Randy again.

[beefcake]

Couture wont win this.

Their 1st fight Randy was coming off 2 losses, dropping a wieght class, and turning 40.
Chuck was coming off an 11 win streak and had basically beaten everyone there was to beat.
Everyone including the UFC thought this would be an easy fight for Chuck and he would go on to face Tito for the title.

My point is that i dont care what Chuck says, he took Randy lightly, and gave him no respect......in the 2nd fight Chuck knew what he was up against and what Randy was capable of and he took care of business. Chuck will never come unprepared against someone like Randy again.

Off topic, but would you say the same applies for his match with quinton jackson?

[BJJ PitBull]

Off topic, but would you say the same applies for his match with quinton jackson?

Id say a healthy Chuck would beat a healthy Rampage. I dont think Chuck under estimated him but Chuck was definitely out of shape, looked tired and hurt from the beggining of the fight. I believe he was fighting with a pulled hamstring or groin or something. He coulda been tired from the fact that Pride has 10 minute 1st round, or the traveling to Japan or what. Rampage fights in Japan (or used to) regularly.
Since that fight with Rampage, Chuck has never looked better cardio wise and aggressivness.
But not to take anything away from Quinton, he messed Chuck up that night.

[beefcake]

Id say a healthy Chuck would beat a healthy Rampage. I dont think Chuck under estimated him but Chuck was definitely out of shape, looked tired and hurt from the beggining of the fight. I believe he was fighting with a pulled hamstring or groin or something. He coulda been tired from the fact that Pride has 10 minute 1st round, or the traveling to Japan or what. Rampage fights in Japan (or used to) regularly.
Since that fight with Rampage, Chuck has never looked better cardio wise and aggressivness.
But not to take anything away from Quinton, he messed Chuck up that night.

I see what you're saying, but I still feel chuck falls to good ground game. If couture and horn had took him to the ground, I think chuck wouldn't have won. It's stupid to stand with chuck, I think randy has realized that.

[BJJ PitBull]

I see what you're saying, but I still feel chuck falls to good ground game. If couture and horn had took him to the ground, I think chuck wouldn't have won. It's stupid to stand with chuck, I think randy has realized that.

Yeah the ground is where to beat him for sure. But Chuck has the best takedown defense in the sport. Even in Chuck/Randy 1, Randy was able to get him down a few times but couldnt keep him down long enough to do any damage. Chuck finds a way to either avoid being taken down in the first place or once he is down he finds a way to get back up before his opponent can solidify a position to mount an offense from the ground. The only way Randy was able to keep Chuck down was after he wore him out on their feet for 3 rounds.

In the first fight Chuck had no side to side movement, he just moved straight back which made it easier for Randy to time the takedown....in the 2nd fight Chuck learned his lesson and had a lot of side to side movement and that made it hard for Randy to get into a clinch and try for a takedown.....once Randy finally got a clinch he got clocked with a left hook and then got KO'd seconds later.

[hitmansb]

Chuck by KO.

[Pudgy-R]

Randy, he has the "the strap" :P

[meat12]

Liddell is my pick

[Adrenaline]

I gotta go with Liddell, he's younger and has more confidence now.

[BJJ PitBull]

Randy...I just bought the pay per view from comcast :) Can't wait.....But the fight I'm trying to get tickets for, is the Gracie vs. Hughes....Now that will be one hell of a fight....

Dude tickets go on sale saturday for frank shamrock vs. ceasar gracie for march 10 here in san jose....im going to that for sure!

[beefcake]

Dude tickets go on sale saturday for frank shamrock vs. ceasar gracie for march 10 here in san jose....im going to that for sure!

Been waiting for this for a long time. I hope frank ends ceaser's undefeated streak, but I doubt that will happen. No disrespect to ceaser, I just like frank.

[Tinfish]

Well I will tell you who Vegas thinks will win.

Current odds are:

Chuck Liddell -186
Randy Couture +171


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