Fuck my college

[babyblues]

Whore:slap:

No, see it's like a sentence. I said, "Goodness...", then you said, "sake..." then I said, "woman." Goodness sake, woman. Get it? Nevermind.

[babyblues]

:rofl: I love it...

You love being a woman? :dunno:

[NewbieChris]

This is exactly what every stupid, irresponsible little prick says when they get caught doing something stupid. What you do, on or off campus, reflects on that school and whether you agree or not, IT IS THEIR BUSINESS! Attending that school is a priviledge that they extend to you provided you stick to the rules and they have every right to terminate that priviledge. You submit yourself to their rules. That's the way it works.

Judging by your avatar you don't understand the meaning of the flag, nor the basis of our country. The law is hypocritical. The federal government is twisting the arm of states. Alcohol laws in and of themselves are stupid. I bought alcohol for someone who is supposed to be an adult, who can be drafted. The person I bought the alcohol for is an honors student on deans list. That tells me he can make mature decisions about what he does, besides that I can't give you any more evidence that he is mature enough to know how much alcohol to drink, etc.

Control your life? Let me get this straight. You want to get into the MARINES and you don't like someone controlling our life!!!! Wow, you've got quite the wake up call coming. You better learn to accept someone else's control over your life if you want to make it in the military. Makes me think you want to join the Marines so you'll have bragging rights. BTW, Making rules to keep you from doing something stupid that could get someone else either killed or seriously injured is not controlling your life. There are consequences to decisions like the one you made. You need to grow up and accept whatever happens with a little maturity. Get over yourself, newbie.

To me the choice between going into a military organization and attending an education institution is completely different. Again, I will refer to your avatar. AS A CIVILIAN I have certain liberties. EVERYONE the federal government has/tries to step on. Same with many other private organizations that over reach their boundries. Going into a military organization is completely different. Without extreme structure it would not survive.

When the law makes sense I won't be so frustrated.

You provided alchohol to a minor, dude! What if something had happened to them because of that? Could you live with that decision? Or are you only concerned with how that decision affected you and your life? You put that minor in a very bad position. Seems to me you're the one who's high on themselves for thinking you're above the rules and for thinking that they don't have the right to discipline you for your monumentally stupid decision. Sorry to come down hard on you, but some people have to learn the hard way.

Actually that 'Minor', who you are treating like a child, is 20 and 1/2 years old. He is not a child and he is not stupid. I've known him a long time and if something had happened to him I would have felt terrible, but it would have been because of a choice he made. A choice he deserves to have, because he is an adult Everyone that is a legal adult and can be drafted to die for this country should have all the same rights.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions about me. You know me as nothing more than someone who is venting their frustration with an extremely flawed system online.

[babyblues]

OK, I'm just going to ignore everything in that last post, because I know that you know better. Do you honestly think that what you did was right? You have the freedom to do what you know is right to do. Did you exercise that freedom? No, you didn't. You admitted that you made a mistake. It doesn't matter if the person you gave the alchohol to was 10 or 20. It doesn't matter if they are capable or incapable of making their own decisions as an adult. The law says that you're not allowed to give alchohol to anyone under 21. There's no way around that. And it's a good law. No one's trying to take freedom away from you.

[FitnessBrat]

Come one Chris. You are a intelligent guy - don't act like that, please. You know what you did was wrong, so just hope for the best and don't do it again. Don't trash the government, the police, and the school because of a poor decision you made.

[Bouncer]

Do you have to post something stupid in every thread? Get outta here, rado. You've started plenty of useless threads that you can post your crap in. You're really starting to get annoying with stuff like this.

agreed. rado, you have the right to post in every thread that you want as long as you can add something to the thread. being funny and posting little comments in some threads is fine when everyone else is doing it. but don't come into a thread where people are having a serous conversation and post dumb shit. :)

[NewbieChris]

Come one Chris. You are a intelligent guy - don't act like that, please. You know what you did was wrong, so just hope for the best and don't do it again. Don't trash the government, the police, and the school because of a poor decision you made.

I broke the law. That doesn't mean I did something wrong. I understand there are laws for a reason, but this is kind of ridiculous. It is a law simply because states want funding for roads. How do you justify that as something 'people' wand in a republic? It's not. Its something an interest group wanted and its just another way the federal government is side-stepping the Constitution. This is a states choice, but its so mixed up in politics. I have, before this ever happened, always been a strong believer that all 'adults' should have the same rights and privileges (unless they fuck up).

I am angry at my school, and I was just trying to vent my frustration with the first post. There is nothing I love more than this school, but sometimes I think they go too far with some things. The same goes for the federal government. However, I harbor no ill will towards the local police for enforcing a law. Its their job, and I never said an ill word about them. I did make a bad decision that put me into a situation where they had to do something.

BabyBlues, you came down very hard with very strong comments. Its comments like yours, about the law be so wonderful, that really bother me. It shows a lack of understanding of the drug and the way you should use it. I'm 22 and I don't drink but three or four times a year and even then it is mild. Its about teaching people to use alcohol wisely. Use Europe as an example.

I did do what I believe is right, I allowed him to make a choice I think he should be able to make. 18 and older and you should be able to drink, especially if you can be drafted. Limiting access to something often causes that something to be more desirable. e.g. prohibition. Oh yea, and the law is 21 and over only in states that get federal funding for mandatory federal roads...interesting...huh?

[babyblues]

I broke the law. That doesn't mean I did something wrong. I understand there are laws for a reason, but this is kind of ridiculous. It is a law simply because states want funding for roads. How do you justify that as something 'people' wand in a republic? It's not. Its something an interest group wanted and its just another way the federal government is side-stepping the Constitution. This is a states choice, but its so mixed up in politics. I have, before this ever happened, always been a strong believer that all 'adults' should have the same rights and privileges (unless they fuck up).

OK, you broke the law AND you did something wrong. Disregarding this particular law was not a smart thing to do. You have admitted that. First you talk about the states wanting funding for roads than the federal government side stepping the Constitution. Which is it? It is the state's choice and you got busted by the state. You weren't summoned to a federal courthouse. I think you're misunderstanding where the reprimand is coming from.

BabyBlues, you came down very hard with very strong comments. Its comments like yours, about the law be so wonderful, that really bother me. It shows a lack of understanding of the drug and the way you should use it. I'm 22 and I don't drink but three or four times a year and even then it is mild. Its about teaching people to use alcohol wisely. Use Europe as an example.

This isn't about you, NewbieChris. It's about the thousands of underaged drinkers who die every year. Alcohol related traffic deaths each year among people ages 16 - 20 were cut in half in the last 20 years by raising the legal drinking age to 21. There's a reason that they instituted that law and yes, it's a good one. Alcohol related deaths have actually decreased in this country over the last 20 years. In the UK, however, they've increased. You tell me how that a good thing.

In reality, comments like yours cause concern for all the rest of us. You, my friend, are the one who lacks understanding. Teaching people to use alcohol wisely doesn't involve helping them drink before the legal age. Using alcohol wisely would involve waiting until they are older and wiser.

I did do what I believe is right, I allowed him to make a choice I think he should be able to make. 18 and older and you should be able to drink, especially if you can be drafted. Limiting access to something often causes that something to be more desirable. e.g. prohibition. Oh yea, and the law is 21 and over only in states that get federal funding for mandatory federal roads...interesting...huh?

So, they should just eliminate all limitations because people are going to want it more. That shows no maturity or wisdom. If you really do believe that you did the right thing, you have no business ever being in the military. Dying for your country is heroic, dying because you're young and stupid is tragic.

[NewbieChris]

First you talk about the states wanting funding for roads than the federal government side stepping the Constitution. Which is it? It is the state's choice and you got busted by the state. You weren't summoned to a federal courthouse. I think you're misunderstanding where the reprimand is coming from.

I thought I did a good job of making you understand this. Drinking age is a sates choice. IE it is not outlined by the constitution. However, the federal government in its total wisdom has chosen to bribe states with money. You're telling me that isn't the case?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ge_Act_of_1984

This isn't about you, NewbieChris. It's about the thousands of underaged drinkers who die every year. Alcohol related traffic deaths among people ages 16 - 20 were cut in half in the last 20 years by raising the legal drinking age to 21. There's a reason that they instituted that law and yes, it's a good one. Alcohol related deaths have actually decreased in this country over the last 20 years. In the UK, however, they've increased. You tell me how that a good thing.

Did I argue that 16 or 17 year olds should be able to consume alcohol? Also you keep saying 'they'. Who are they? I would like some evidence to show me that raising the age is the reason that the accidents have gone down and not stricter enforcement of DUI. Some backing of your statistics would be nice, because what I see on a regular basis contradicts everything you say.

In reality, comments like yours cause concern for all the rest of us. You, my friend, are the one who lacks understanding. Teaching people to use alcohol wisely doesn't involve helping them drink before the legal age. Using alcohol wisely would involve teaching them to wait until they are older and wiser.

Lack of understanding about the federal governments boundaries? I think not. The point is, at 21 you don't suddenly become so wise and etc. Besides you are telling people that are 18 the same thing, they are intelligent enough and mature enough to take responsibility for their actions. They are old enough to make even bigger decisions than consuming a drug. People allow citizens of the age 18 and over to take responsibility for actions that highly outweigh anything alcohol may account for.

So, they should just eliminate all limitations because people are going to want it more. That shows no maturity or wisdom. If you really do believe that you did the right thing, you have no business ever being in the military. Dying for your country is heroic, dying because you're young and stupid is tragic.

Thats what your beloved President and Congress did when the repealed prohibition. They saw that people abused the drug even more than they did when it was legal. However, the argument isn't universal and your attempt to make it shows me you clearly don't care to have a serious discussion. I don't ride the slippery slope like so many others.

Dying for your country isn't an absolute if you join the military my friend. Your argument seems counter intuitive to me. We should make people wait to consume alcohol. Should we then make them wait to serve in the military as well? In my opinion, serving in the military is a much larger responsibility than consuming alcohol.

[babyblues]

Dude, don't be stupid. You're getting more and more irrational. This conversation is over.

[Bouncer]

Let him vent BB...He's much younger than you and I;)

ya but he is damn close to my age so that gives me the right to kick his ass right? :)

[babyblues]

ya but he is damn close to my age so that gives me the right to kick his ass right? :)

That certainly follows the logic of this thread so far. :D

[NewbieChris]

It is just very frustrating to me. I think its just plain stupid the way law works in some cases and every once-in-a-while I get fed up. I think there is so much that could change for the better, but doesn't because of stupid shit like drinking age. I don't know how to explain it to you if you already see what I am saying.

[FitnessBrat]

This argument is totally ridiculous, lol wow. Chris, your posts are way too long, so I think you should just shut up now :)

[NewbieChris]

This argument is totally ridiculous, lol wow. Chris, your posts are way too long, so I think you should just shut up now :)

If I shut up, will you pm me? :D