Eli Manning

[NYCmitch25]

Yeah, it's ridiculous to think he would have developed more with a team that had a pass rush defense instead of worrying he was going to get his head ripped off every play! Bottom line is he's gun shy...that's why he makes poor decisions when pressured!

hes been in the pro's for 4 yrs now... college has nothing to do with his development at this point. plus you dont htink his bro pony'd up some cash to have the best work with him in hte off season in college?

gun shy? when your only downfield threat is a TE fuck where he going to throw it. def plays short.

[babyblues]

Peyton has been in the league for 10yrs, & Brady 8yrs. Well shithead I guess we'll just sit here a wait 5-6 yrs or we can do this - look at him now he has great arm strength, mobility, and always improving he makes good descisions he is a good pocket QB. he has a long way to go but shit he doenst have Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Moss,Branch (traded), etc im sick of the whinny NY fans and media. a yr ago 1/2 you fuckers thought Brady sucked so i dont want to hear it.

He shouldn't need Wayne, Harrison, Moss or Branch to be a great quarterback. Brady won a Superbowl in his third year without a star receiver whatsoever. How many of the league's top receivers play with a crap quarterback? None.

[NYCmitch25]

He shouldn't need Wayne, Harrison, Moss or Branch to be a great quarterback. Brady won a Superbowl in his third year without a star receiver whatsoever. Tone it down a little, man. You don't have to come off like such a dick.

im not saying anything about Brady. I won lots of money for YEARS b/c ppl doubted his abilities LOL. i meet him the only guys that were cool were him and Teddy. hes an exceptional QB. Manning may never be THAT good.

[babyblues]

im not saying anything about Brady. I won lots of money for YEARS b/c ppl doubted his abilities LOL. i meet him the only guys that were cool were him and Teddy. hes an exceptional QB. Manning may never be THAT good.

Winning Superbowls is great and everything, but how long can you play for a guy like Bellichick without wanting to choke him? I love that he's the Pats coach, but I don't have to play for him.

Eli Manning was way over-hyped coming into the league. Even though he actually is a pretty good QB, he'll never live up to the hype so people think he's disappointing. If nobody had known who he was, everyone would probably agree that he's a good QB. Expectations and perceptions have been distorted. Coaches don't really care what the public thinks, so he'll do fine.

[babyblues]

No player wants to be on a shit team...You think he wants to leave(whether or not he's thought about it)and play for another team?

Tom Brady is one of the highest paid players in the league at 16M a year. Branch left for more money. Vinatieri left for more money. I'm sure Bob Kraft will pay him as much as it takes to keep him.

[babyblues]

Fair enough...But money doesn't make always make the winning team...

True. Unfortunately, it has become more about the money.

[Bouncer]

I have to tell you guys, the Giants sure did not when because of Eli today. He pretty much did everything in his power to lose the game for them. LOL.

Has anyone changed their views on Eli since this thread started?

[Gator_Mclusky]

He gave the Pats a run for their money last night. I keep thinking he'll get better.....not sure. Sucks havin to be in Peytons shadow.


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[beefcake]

Give him time, he'll get better. Just like rivers and romo.

[Shibby]

I can't tell if he is just overrated because of his brother or if he just doesn't fit in the Giants.

I guess he did all right with the Giants:P

[Mr I]

I say bench him, but then I don't know who he is r what sport he plays, he has a silly name though which could effect team morale

[Shibby]

This poll was from '07, I was looking back and since then he has one a super bowl.