Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson 5/31/08

[NYCmitch25]

LMAO...this is the same org that had Bo Cantrell take a fall against Kimbo a few months ago, and then put Kimbo against a 50 year old Tank Abbott. That event was a total embarrassment to mixed martial arts.

Thanks EliteXc, you set mma back another 10 years.

Good job to Smith and Lawler though.

Your absolutely right. That was terrible. I thought the whole thing was really corney. It was worse than the American Gladiators or when XFL opened. Goffey nicknames bad announcing. 40 commercials with 4 fights. and The idiot from NY dancing around for 5mins - at least he got owned. Even my wife laughed at that.

I havent followed the sport all that long but this is what thought:
It appeared to me that the commentators didn't know the sport.
Amateur night! The skill level was nothing close to what ive used to seeing in MMA. Good job with the match ups.
Kimbo is an amateur boxer with little MMA skill. He really doesnt belong. A Couple of the holds and take downs were more WWE style lol.I think the learning curve is too great. IMO he seem to have lost that anger and rage he had on the street.






Kimbo really has no business in MMA.

[Shibby]

IMO he seem to have lost that anger and rage he had on the street.






Kimbo really has no business in MMA.

I think he got a major wake up call as he takes a little tougher fight each time. He went from fighting some people on the streets who think they are the toughest thing in the world; to fighting people who are really trained. Pretty much as everyone has said, get anybody who can counter that bull charge kind of swinging he comes right out with and he will be down quick.

[Bouncer]

I think he got a major wake up call as he takes a little tougher fight each time. He went from fighting some people on the streets who think they are the toughest thing in the world; to fighting people who are really trained. Pretty much as everyone has said, get anybody who can counter that bull charge kind of swinging he comes right out with and he will be down quick.

i think the anger thing is more about his current lifestyle. he has nothing to be angry about anymore. before he was doing it to survive. now he is rich.

[ROCKETW19]

Right now? No. But you pay me to train 6 days a week for a year plus like he has and let me add about 20lbs, and fuck yea I would but lets be honest, hes not an MMA fighter, hes a street fighter.

Id bet my car and home my jiu jitsu right now is better than his ever will be.

Ya YJ get in there and choke that fucker out!
what are you weighing right now?
Shit I think even my lame ass has better Jits than Kimbo. I though for sure Bas would of been drilling that into him. he should be better by now.

[YellowJacket]

Ya YJ get in there and choke that fucker out!
what are you weighing right now?
Shit I think even my lame ass has better Jits than Kimbo. I though for sure Bas would of been drilling that into him. he should be better by now.

Im about 199-202 right now, but I plan to cut to 185 around Aug and hopefully fight as an amateur in the Kentucky Fight Challenge.

[Bouncer]

Im about 199-202 right now, but I plan to cut to 185 around Aug and hopefully fight as an amateur in the Kentucky Fight Challenge.

what do you get if you win the Kentucky fight challenge? fried chicken and collard greens? :fufool:

[ROCKETW19]

Im about 199-202 right now, but I plan to cut to 185 around Aug and hopefully fight as an amateur in the Kentucky Fight Challenge.

Nice! make sure you keep me posted on this! Im sure you already know 185ers are mostly ground so keep up the jits, and good luck.

[YellowJacket]

what do you get if you win the Kentucky fight challenge? fried chicken and collard greens? :fufool:

And a shirt that says "Get 'R' Done"

[bigscott]

mr incredible, me and you agree on one thing. the fight should not have been stopped. stopping that fight was bullshit no matter who would have one.

this i agree 100 percent

[blm]

I've been reading quite a few articles about the EliteXC/WWE fight on Saturday night and apparently Kimbo wanted to fight a guy in the post fight conference because he called him out saying he tapped when he was getting beat on the ground.

[Bouncer]

I've been reading quite a few articles about the EliteXC/WWE fight on Saturday night and apparently Kimbo wanted to fight a guy in the post fight conference because he called him out saying he tapped when he was getting beat on the ground.

i thought he tapped at one point also. i thought i was just seeing things. i wonder now what he was doing.

[The_Grinder]

I thought I was imagining things too so I didn't say anything, but I turned to my fiance at one point and said its over he just tapped out, and nothing happened. I honestly think he might have tried to at one point.

EDIT: I remember what it was now. It was that time in the first round when JT hand Kimbo in the headlock and Kimbo gave the thumbs up, it just looked like a tapout.

[Shibby]

Yea it was a thumbs up as to say "I am not being choked", the announcers even commented on it.

[Mr I]

"An Open letter to all

On behalf of Brett Rogers, Team Bison and everyone representing our camp: we would like to clarify a few issues that may be mis- interrupted by the press and the many many message boards.
First we would like to start out by once again thanking Gary Shaw and Elite XC. Elite is our home and it is where we hope to be for a long time. They treat their fighters great. More then the day to day treatment of the fighters they are interested in developing fighters and making long term commitments to their fighters. Unlike other promotions who have a tradition of “one and done” and cancelling contracts without notice; Elite is standing by their fighters. We are proud to be with the organization that brought back Yves, Sammy and Phil when others wrote them off. We were proud to be part of an organization that gave James Thompson a chance at redemption (and in our mind earned another chance on Saturday!). Elite gave us an amazing opportunity to bring aboard great sponsors who could really get their money’s worth.
We really believe in Elite and hope to bring more of our fighters up through their ranks. We do not want anyone to think for a second we are ungrateful, angry or otherwise disappointed with Gary Shaw, Elite, Showtime or CBS. And no; we have not been forced or threatened to say this and anyone who thinks we could be does not know Team Bison. Simply put; we will always speak our minds and will not be intimidated; which brings us to the Kimbo situation.
Brett had won 6 fight before coming to Elite. He struggled on the local circuit to find fights. He was pretty much avoided from day 1. The guys he fought simply provided zero competition and he put them all away early. When he fought for the regional title he fought a guy who was 10-1 and suppose to be this great striker. Brett KO’d him in under 10 seconds. We went to Hawaii where despite changing the rules as we stepped through the ropes and again during the fight; Brett KO’d his opponent. Finally we got to go BIG and face serious competition in Elite XC in Texas. The main event on that show was Kimbo Slice vs Bo Cantrall. Bo is a sub .500 fighter who was on a 4 fight losing streak when he got the call to come to Elite. On that show Brett faced Ralph Kelly who a decent up and comer with a good amateur record. Brett had a tougher opponent but got less money and a on the Under Card.
Next stop Miami where Kimbo is again the main event and blown up huge. His opponent; the venerable Tank Abbot. I believe the last time Tank won a democrat was in the White House and gas was $1.50 a gallon. Brett took on Pride veteran James Thompson for way less money and way down on the card. Brett puts him away in the 1st half of the 1st round.
CBS show. Kimbo gets the same James Thompson Brett had just KO’d. James coming in losing 3 of his last 4 and his last two straight by KO. Brett gets the opening spot against Jon Murphy. Murphy a 9-2 fighter with great Jujitsu who had impressively KO’d Dave Huckabee. Again the tougher fight for less money. 3 times running – tougher guys for less money. Not a great pattern!
And you know we would be fine with that as well; however Kimbo is not only getting the softer spots and the heavier cheddar (as they say) he is also being pushed as the monster; best fighter in the organization. As a fighter Brett is expected to want to fight the best. Our Team has a focus to be the best. Elite is our home and we are told KIMBO is the best. Now why would Brett want to fight anyone else? Every interview Brett has done since before the Kelly fight has started and ended with a Kimbo question. It is only natural he would like to answer the Kimbo question once and for all.
On a personal note: we like Kimbo very much. We have nothing but respect for him, Bas and the love and support his crew shows him. We could do with out the silliness to be sure; but hey it is the fight game and some times people just have to act that way; even if they don’t. But this isn’t about hating the man or his accomplishments. This is about being the best. We respect Kimbo does this to feed his kids, care for his family. Brett has a family too.
Fighting is about challenging yourself; testing the limits. It is about courage and strength and honor. There is no honor is fighting down a tier. Elite is saying this man is the best – We are Elite! Brett has earned the opportunity to fight the best. Everyone he has fought got dusted in the first round. It is time to see how he does at the top of card against the man they are pushing as the standard bearer.
If they believe that Kimbo is not ready for Brett; that Brett is too dangerous for Kimbo – We can accept that. Frankly there are a lot of people Brett shouldn’t be allowed to fight and maybe Kimbo is one of those people. We are fine with that decision. All we ask then is that we be allowed to be in that spot with all it’s benefits and responsibilities and take any and all comers without reservations.
This letter would not be complete without mentioning the other forgotten man in all this, Antonio “Big Foot” Silva. Antonio is a certified, absolute all around warrior. He is one of the very best heavyweight fighters in the world. We have a world of respect for Antonio and ATT and would consider it a tremendous honor to compete with him. If it was a fight for the title; if was billed as the fight between the two best fighters in Elite; we would be overjoyed. However it does not seem right that Brett and Antonio should be fighting just to see who gets to be the number 2 man behind Kimbo.
I’m willing to bet that Antonio feels the same way. As true warriors we want to fight the best and right now everything; judging by the money, the publicity and the billboards; that is Kimbo. Has Kimbo earned that spot? We are not convinced. So we are calling Kimbo out. If this is a challenge he does not feel ready to accept; that is cool. That we can understand. But it is somewhat unreasonable to ask everyone to play second fiddle – to fight tougher opponents for less money while another fighter makes bank on the also rans. Brett has fought three very tough heavy weights with legitimate skills. The result in every one of those fights was a first round KO. No decisions, no controversy just straight up cart them off wins. Yet every interview and every place he goes he hears Kimbo this, Kimbo that. Hell, if we were not asking to fight Kimbo, Gary would be ashamed of us and would be wondering what type of wimps he had fighting for him. If Kimbo is the badest man on the planet; then lets do this thing. All due respect…step up or step aside."

Thank You
Brett Rogers, Mike Reilly, and Team Bison

[Mr I]

Its all about the marketing, kimbo gets paid well because of the hype that he creates while other more experienced fighters don't even get paid as much. Winning fights against tough opponents doesn't always guarantee the biggest pay days, a la Randy Coutures departure from UFC in light of Chuck Lidell's pay checks.

Looks like this guy is doing his best to snatch some hype by getting a shot at Kimbo, and you can't say he doesn't deserve it