CERN Experiment

[Mr I]

Oh shit I hope SC doesn't see this post, we'll be here all fricken day he'll probably work the theories into his steroid chemistry:rolleyes:

[Bouncer]

Oh shit I hope SC doesn't see this post, we'll be here all fricken day

:rofl:

[Shibby]

The internet is a little different. There wasn't evidence suggesting that the world might come to an end while developing the internet. The internet, automobiles, elecricity, etc. were all things to help the human race have an easier and better life. Its not like someone started doing a random experiment, and the car was a byproduct. Someone invisioned the automobile, and set out to create just that!

Tell me what they are trying to do with this experiment? How is it advancing life? How will my life be made easier in 10 years if they find another dimension or some super-atom? The point is, they are taking a shot in the dark with no clear objective. They just want to see what happens. Finding an economical alternative to fossil fuel would be advancing life, not ramming atoms into eachother to see microscopic fireworks....

And as far as the scientists researching something for 10 years... I don't really consider 10 years a long time in this context.

Ok, you are no longer debating, you are twisting my words and arguing just to argue so I am done.

[blm]

And as far as the scientists researching something for 10 years... I don't really consider 10 years a long time in this context.

Actually they have been researching this for decades. They have been building the LHC for 10 yrs. Grab your bible, your blanky, and crawl back in your hole where it's nice and safe, lol.

[mindstar]

Tell me what they are trying to do with this experiment? How is it advancing life? How will my life be made easier in 10 years if they find another dimension or some super-atom? The point is, they are taking a shot in the dark with no clear objective. They just want to see what happens.

This is the essence of scientific discovery and, in my opinion, something that makes us uniquely human.

Think for a minute about the history of discovery. When the white people who discovered NA set out on their journey, conventional wisdom was that they would fall off the end of the earth. As silly as it may sound, some very intelligent and respected members of the scientific community believed that the earth was flat and had a finite end.

Think about when science was rooted in religion, and the beliefs it had about the end of the world then.

As knowledge advances, we are forced to recontextualize our fears and beliefs; something I believe we will be doing soon in relation to the Collider. While I recognize and understand your fear, I feel that there is more at stake than merely an experiment or not. If attitudes like yours gain a foothold in the scientific community, I feel that progress will stall and the myriad possibilities avaiable to us through discovery will certainly be forshortened. Who is to say that the losses we may suffer from not doing the experiment will not outweigh the possible negative outcomes of said experiment?

[The_Grinder]

Ok, you are no longer debating, you are twisting my words and arguing just to argue so I am done.

Actually man I really wasnt trying to do that. I seriously was trying to make a valid point. I looked back over what I said and I guess it was the "byproduct" thing. That actually was just the first thing I typed and I didn't even think about what you had said before about byproducts. I disagree with you about this experiment was I wasnt direspecting...

[blm]

This is the essence of scientific discovery and, in my opinion, something that makes us uniquely human.

Think for a minute about the history of discovery. When the white people who discovered NA set out on their journey, conventional wisdom was that they would fall off the end of the earth. As silly as it may sound, some very intelligent and respected members of the scientific community believed that the earth was flat and had a finite end.

Think about when science was rooted in religion, and the beliefs it had about the end of the world then.

As knowledge advances, we are forced to recontextualize our fears and beliefs; something I believe we will be doing soon in relation to the Collider. While I recognize and understand your fear, I feel that there is more at stake than merely an experiment or not. If attitudes like yours gain a foothold in the scientific community, I feel that progress will stall and the myriad possibilities avaiable to us through discovery will certainly be forshortened. Who is to say that the losses we may suffer from not doing the experiment will not outweigh the possible negative outcomes of said experiment?

Well said, much better than my smart ass remark. :)

[blm]

Live WebCam inside the LHC.....if you watch it for a few seconds you actually do see things happening. Pretty cool.

---------------------- lhc

[Bouncer]

Live WebCam inside the LHC.....if you watch it for a few seconds you actually do see things happening. Pretty cool.

---------------------- lhc

:rofl:

[Shibby]

Actually man I really wasnt trying to do that. I seriously was trying to make a valid point. I looked back over what I said and I guess it was the "byproduct" thing. That actually was just the first thing I typed and I didn't even think about what you had said before about byproducts. I disagree with you about this experiment was I wasnt direspecting...

It's fine, I wasn't mad. I just wasn't going to keep going back and forth anymore.

[Bouncer]

Large Hadron Collider down for 2 months

Large Hadron Collider down for 2 months - CNN.com

[NewbieChris]

Well, we didn't die in 36hrs, but that doesn't make me happy. We shall see.

[blm]

Well, we didn't die in 36hrs, but that doesn't make me happy. We shall see.

Did you see this?


Particle Accelerator

[Turbo3000]

And the 10 billion dollar toy is already broken.

2 months or more till it is fixed.

[Shibby]

"See, that's why we can't have nice things.":)