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    Police will have power to secretly search homes

    http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006009,00.html

    POLICE will be allowed to secretly search suspects' homes and remotely access their home computers for a month under the most draconian covert operation laws the state has seen.

    And no one will know, because of a provision allowing investigators to keep those being spied on in the dark for up to three years.

    The laws, which give police greater power to deal with criminals than they have to use against suspected terrorists, were introduced into Parliament without warning by the Government yesterday as part of a crackdown on criminal gangs. However, they drew immediate criticism from civil libertarians, who claimed it was an invasion of personal freedom and from the NSW Opposition, who claimed they wouldn't work.

    Premier Nathan Rees said NSW would be the first jurisdiction in Australia to adopt the covert search warrants, modelled on Commonwealth anti-terrorism legislation.

    "If you are a serious criminal in NSW you should not sleep easy," Mr Rees said. "These laws will enable our police force to inspect your home without you knowing."

    The warrants will be issued through the Supreme Court and limited to investigations of suspected serious offences punishable by at least seven years jail. These include the manufacture of drugs, computer crimes, the sale of firearms, homicide and kidnapping.

    NSW Police will be able to apply to the Supreme Court to delay notification of their activities for 18 months and up to three years in some exceptional circumstances. Civil libertarians said the new laws were not only the next step in the creation of a police state but could also foster corruption in the force.

    "These powers are more powerful than those available to the federal police when dealing with terrorism suspects," NSW Council for Civil Liberties president Cameron Murphy said. "These are exactly the types of laws that led to a huge police corruption problem in NSW in the past. It is going to lead to more police corruption. Why would the NSW Police need more power in dealing with ordinary criminals than the federal police does in dealing with terrorists?"

    Opposition police spokesman Mike Gallacher said the announcement would simply tell organised criminals they need to be smarter.

    "They'll do so in such a way that houses are not penetrated, that the houses themselves have video surveillance . . . or are not left vacant at all at any stage," he said.

  • #2
    SO when are you moving to the states.....that suxs bro

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    • #3
      your country gets gayer by the day

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      • #4
        eroding peoples rights all in the name of terrorism

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        • #5
          I'm pretty sure that goes on everywhere anyway but its great news for any bent policemen perverts and thieves

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redback View Post
            Police will have power to secretly search homes
            Is this not highly illegal? you would walk from court here if they tried that.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            POLICE will be allowed to secretly search suspects' homes and remotely access their home computers for a month under the most draconian covert operation laws the state has seen.
            Do they not need to go to a judge with plenty of info to get a search warrent even if they are crims?

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            And no one will know, because of a provision allowing investigators to keep those being spied on in the dark for up to three years.
            It would be easier to live in Afganastan lol.



            Originally posted by redback View Post
            Premier Nathan Rees said NSW would be the first jurisdiction in Australia to adopt the covert search warrants, modelled on Commonwealth anti-terrorism legislation.
            Thats baddd news if that happens.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            "If you are a serious criminal in NSW you should not sleep easy," Mr Rees said. "These laws will enable our police force to inspect your home without you knowing."
            That so wouldnt work here youd walk even if they found stuff.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            The warrants will be issued through the Supreme Court and limited to investigations of suspected serious offences punishable by at least seven years jail. These include the manufacture of drugs, computer crimes, the sale of firearms, homicide and kidnapping.
            Well that i agree with, but a bit of personal gear doing no one any harm.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            NSW Police will be able to apply to the Supreme Court to delay notification of their activities for 18 months and up to three years in some exceptional circumstances. Civil libertarians said the new laws were not only the next step in the creation of a police state but could also foster corruption in the force.
            I really am so shocked at what your saying you know thats crazy and seems so unlawful even for pigs.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            "These powers are more powerful than those available to the federal police when dealing with terrorism suspects," NSW Council for Civil Liberties president Cameron Murphy said. "These are exactly the types of laws that led to a huge police corruption problem in NSW in the past. It is going to lead to more police corruption. Why would the NSW Police need more power in dealing with ordinary criminals than the federal police does in dealing with terrorists?"
            So they target gear users and suppliers before they go for bombers thats mad.

            Originally posted by redback View Post
            Opposition police spokesman Mike Gallacher said the announcement would simply tell organised criminals they need to be smarter
            And they normally are, well at least a step ahead, see if it wasnt for whistle blowers or as we call them here touts, the cops wouldnt get anyone.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bigscott View Post
              eroding peoples rights all in the name of terrorism

              Spot on.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rado
                I think that's great, what's wrong with this here/\

                If you're a suspect of some sort, why not keep a trace on them>?

                What if your suspected of being hung like a horse, would they trace you then, :hmm:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rado
                  I think that's great, what's wrong with this here/\

                  If you're a suspect of some sort, why not keep a trace on them>?
                  to them everyone is a suspect -- it becomes a police state and no good will come from that -

                  giving a select group to much power over the people -- it will be abused !!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Heard a story the other day of a dealer who had security cams on his house. Two guys with balaclavas picked his lock when he wasnt there and went through all his shit and then left it like it had never been touched. 2 weeks later the guy gets raided and they know where ALL his shit is, they even knew what was in his rubbish.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bigscott View Post
                      to them everyone is a suspect -- it becomes a police state and no good will come from that -

                      giving a select group to much power over the people -- it will be abused !!!!!
                      The reason the government feels it has the right to protect you at any costs (taking away you very basic rights) is because people fill out polls with comments like:

                      any good terrorist has to adapt to his surroundings -- his son could have been placing the bombs for him
                      ...in a school none-the-less.

                      Everything the government does is because of the peoples mass hysteria over instances that, while scary and truly devastating, are instances that we either knew about without such intelligence or are so difficult to stop there is no purpose infringing the rights of every citizen.

                      I really have trouble believing Australia has such stringent laws and such a lack of respect for its citizens privacy. I always wanted to more there, but not anymore

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NewbieChris View Post
                        I really have trouble believing Australia has such stringent laws and such a lack of respect for its citizens privacy. I always wanted to more there, but not anymore
                        What you mean you have trouble believing? This country was a great country but its being slowly fucked in the ass.

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                        • #13
                          Australian bank fees' 22 per cent higher than UK
                          BANK customers in Australian pay the western world's highest banking fees, a new report says, and the opposition claims the government's doing nothing about it.
                          Australians cop fees that are 22 per cent higher than those paid by Britons, and 11 per cent higher than what Americans pay, says the report released yesterday.

                          The opposition says the federal government has failed to pressure banks to drop their charges.

                          "(Prime Minister) Kevin Rudd and (Treasurer) Wayne Swan should be applying pressure to the banks and asking banks to support Australia during these tough times," shadow financial services spokesman Chris Pearce said.

                          "Wayne Swan said he would do something about this issue last August. Quite clearly they've done nothing to wipe out unfair costs in the banking system.

                          "The government has provided, by way of the bank guarantee and other policies, a lot of support to the banking system."

                          Report author Fujitsu Consulting said average Australian households paid about $1,000 in bank fees each year, compared to $749 in Britain and $850 in the United States.

                          Fujitsu's Martin North said a lack of competition in Australia meant local banks were collecting $5 billion in fees from consumers, making them the most expensive in the western world.

                          "In the context of the global financial services crisis, banks will be attempting to buttress profits by lifting fees," Mr North said.

                          "The average household is, in our view, paying up to $200 more each year than they should thanks to the wide range of fees and charges levied in Australia, and to the lower levels of competition in the market."

                          The Australian Bankers' Association (ABA) disagreed with the report's findings, saying its research showed bank fees in Australia rank about mid-range.

                          "There is a lot of competition in the marketplace for banking products and services," ABA chief executive David Bell said.

                          The Fujitsu research found many consumers were apathetic when it came to bank fees.

                          ATM owners are now allowed to directly charge consumers.

                          Mr Swan did not comment.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redback View Post
                            its being slowly fucked in the ass.

                            JUST LIKE RADO :D

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redback View Post
                              What you mean you have trouble believing? This country was a great country but its being slowly fucked in the ass.
                              I mean it makes me so sad. I can't believe how 'big brother' the world is allowing itself to become.

                              edit: I know you weren't making it up.

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