The worst thing I have ever seen...

[Shibby]

We get it already.....you don't like organized religion.....now stop anti-preaching to us.

Fuck.

You mean stop stating the obvious. I will as soon as people stop ignoring it. Are you going to start yelling at everyone now who mentions themselves being blessed or thanking god every time you hear it?

[decadecadeca]

Are you going to start yelling at everyone now who mentions themselves being blessed or thanking god every time you hear it?

Today I probably would.

[dna9488]

I saw the video, fuckin horrible.


My father always said that Human Beings are the cruelest animals out there.

Also, this shows the lack of education that is present in our time.

[Bouncer]

You do, but you don't. You don't want to go in that direction but you said racism and violent ignorance go hand in hand. There is a root to the majority of that.

yea i get it. but the average guy that go to church or whatever isnt hurting anyone. you have to be careful about how far you take your almost hate for those that choose to have a religion. goes both ways bro. hating someone or something because they are ignorant is ignorance itself.

[mofo]

I saw the video, fuckin horrible.


My father always said that Human Beings are the cruelest animals out there.

Also, this shows the lack of education that is present in our time.

human beings have the capability of being rational and savage. but, no matter how complex our brain have gotten via evolution (or whatever) humans will never find the balance between the two. darwin's theory and hobbes' social contract theory explain this all. these people obviously burned the "witches" either for their own "protection" or to make themselves feel at ease. you have to realize that they will always find this act to be alright in their books.

just like how some people are okay with abortion and the death penalty. here in the US with a 99% literacy rate, we think that sticking a needle full of lethal drugs into someone's arm is okay. take that and correlate it to the literacy rate of kenya (being around 85%) and burning someone for going "against the grain" is a-okay.

it's just sad that it happens everywhere, we just perceive it differently. you just really have to be a dumbshit to realize that all humans are savages. some just do it with more grace than others.

[FitnessBrat]

human beings have the capability of being rational and savage. but, no matter how complex our brain have gotten via evolution (or whatever) humans will never find the balance between the two. darwin's theory and hobbes' social contract theory explain this all. these people obviously burned the "witches" either for their own "protection" or to make themselves feel at ease. you have to realize that they will always find this act to be alright in their books.

just like how some people are okay with abortion and the death penalty. here in the US with a 99% literacy rate, we think that sticking a needle full of lethal drugs into someone's arm is okay. take that and correlate it to the literacy rate of kenya (being around 85%) and burning someone for going "against the grain" is a-okay.

it's just sad that it happens everywhere, we just perceive it differently. you just really have to be a dumbshit to realize that all humans are savages. some just do it with more grace than others.

Agree 100%

[JUICE]

eye for an eye is a standard set that harm is done to the criminal in the ame manner the criminal did harm to the innocent.

yup something I forgot to add.


I was going to add more to it bro but I was short on time. I got text books pertaining to crimes such as these. Just crazy the types of punishments people inflict on people.

[Shibby]

yea i get it. but the average guy that go to church or whatever isnt hurting anyone. you have to be careful about how far you take your almost hate for those that choose to have a religion. goes both ways bro. hating someone or something because they are ignorant is ignorance itself.

Again, it's not a hatred of people with faith. I don't hate them, I just think it's foolish. Big difference. You're not going to see me doing acts in the name of Atheism. Raising consciousness and talking about the pink elephant in the room isn't about hate or ignorance. Quite the opposite. You don't hesitate to discuss animal cruelty and put dogs on the same levels as humans. I don't like animal cruelty either, but I don't understand putting a dog on the same level as humans. Knowing this is probably why I will never own a pet. I like dogs, I just don't care enough to raise one. Back to the point, there are many controversial subjects that people won't hesitate to try and have a civilized conversation about. Capital punishment, abortion, immigration... But for some reason when it comes to faith, it's expected we step back and almost give it a free pass. If someone says, "Well that's my faith" it immediately ends a conversation as if there is no room for debate. Why can't we bring up the subject without people getting hostile?

[Shibby]

I'm all ears and mouth if you want:) What do you believe in/\ or don't believe in?

Way to miss the point

[Shibby]

My other response was going to be "Way to martyr yourself to prove my point" :D

[Bouncer]

human beings have the capability of being rational and savage. but, no matter how complex our brain have gotten via evolution (or whatever) humans will never find the balance between the two. darwin's theory and hobbes' social contract theory explain this all. these people obviously burned the "witches" either for their own "protection" or to make themselves feel at ease. you have to realize that they will always find this act to be alright in their books.

just like how some people are okay with abortion and the death penalty. here in the US with a 99% literacy rate, we think that sticking a needle full of lethal drugs into someone's arm is okay. take that and correlate it to the literacy rate of kenya (being around 85%) and burning someone for going "against the grain" is a-okay.

it's just sad that it happens everywhere, we just perceive it differently. you just really have to be a dumbshit to realize that all humans are savages. some just do it with more grace than others.

you are far smarter then DNA could ever be. you should reach higher. :D

[Bouncer]

Again, it's not a hatred of people with faith. I don't hate them, I just think it's foolish. Big difference. You're not going to see me doing acts in the name of Atheism. Raising consciousness and talking about the pink elephant in the room isn't about hate or ignorance. Quite the opposite. You don't hesitate to discuss animal cruelty and put dogs on the same levels as humans. I don't like animal cruelty either, but I don't understand putting a dog on the same level as humans. Knowing this is probably why I will never own a pet. I like dogs, I just don't care enough to raise one. Back to the point, there are many controversial subjects that people won't hesitate to try and have a civilized conversation about. Capital punishment, abortion, immigration... But for some reason when it comes to faith, it's expected we step back and almost give it a free pass. If someone says, "Well that's my faith" it immediately ends a conversation as if there is no room for debate. Why can't we bring up the subject without people getting hostile?

i just didn't want to sound like i was comparing the people that have a religion on this board to the people in this video.

as stupid as rado may be, he is not the same as the kind of people in the video.

as you know, i am not afraid to talk about any subject, i am however careful not to put others down for something they want to believe in.

[dna9488]

you are far smarter then DNA could ever be. you should reach higher. :D

Um....you asshole :fufool:



She is a psychology major bro, she knows her stuff, very smart. Smarter than me man.

I on the other I hand do better in math and science. I am a chem major.

[Shibby]

i just didn't want to sound like i was comparing the people that have a religion on this board to the people in this video.

as stupid as rado may be, he is not the same as the kind of people in the video.

as you know, i am not afraid to talk about any subject, i am however careful not to put others down for something they want to believe in.

As you know I could go on forever about this, but I will leave with a paragraph from a book by Sam Harris, take it as you may...

Our world is fast succumbing to the activities of men and women who would stake the future of our species on beliefs that should not survive an elementary school education. That so many of us are still dying on account of ancient myths is as bewildering as it is horrible, and our own attachment to these myths, whether moderate or extreme, has kept us silent in the face of developments that could ultimately destroy us. Indeed religion is as much a living spring of violence today si it was at any time in the past. The recent conflicts in Palestine (Jews v. Muslims), the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians v. Catholic Croations; Orthodox Serbians v. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants v. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims v. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims v. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims v. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims v. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists v. Tamil Hindus), Indonesia (Muslims v. Timorese Christians), and the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians v. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis v. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) are merely a few cases in point. In these places religion has been the explicit cause of literally millions of deaths in the last ten years. These events should strike us like psychological experiments run amok, for that is what they are. Give people divergent, irreconcilable, and untestable notions about what happens after death, and then oblige them to live together with limited resources. The result is just what we see: and unending cycle of murder and cease-fire. If history reveals any categorical truth, it is that an insufficient taste for evidence regularly brings out the worst in us. Add weapons of mass destruction to the diabolical clockwork, and you have found a recipe for the fall of civilization.

And to say the "average church goer" isn't hurting anyone falls into the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. No true Scotsman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[mofo]

you are far smarter then DNA could ever be. you should reach higher. :D

hahaha. thanks bouncer. but i can't get think of anything higher than my current goal of law school. i'm minoring in bullshitting, which goes hand-in-hand with that. :D

Um....you asshole :fufool:

She is a psychology major bro, she knows her stuff, very smart. Smarter than me man.

I on the other I hand do better in math and science. I am a chem major.

you're smart. but i'm smart and cynical. :evil:

and shibby makes a good point. a person's faith is something that is for some reason off limits. thing is, it's off limits because of acts like the one in the video. when you ask someone about their faith or even question them about it, more likely than not, they will go into a sort of rage. but the reason it brings up hostility is because of the fact that people don't like being asked questions.

consider going to a clothing store. you are most likely getting bombarded by questions from associates left and right. you're just in the store to find a fricken shirt and yet all these people are in your way getting you aggravated. the store is our world, the associates are us/people, the shirt is your God. you are probably less likely to burn an associate at a store for trying to be helpful (and because a shirt isn't as important as a life) but when you turn that shirt into God, you're getting personal. so instead of getting burned, beaten, clubbed, smacked, killed, etc. you avoid the topic of religion to help feel at "ease".

and a little thing that i believe: we get confrontational about religion because it's something we claim to know everything about, but when you self-reflect on it, you realize you know nothing. religion is a hard concept to grasp and after answering one question, it gives way to 10 others. it simply fills in the empty hole of reason in the human mind and keeps us occupied.