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    i got my liver results yesterday and the doc said the normal range is between 17-45 whatever way they measure it.

    He showed me a print out and the range number than pointed to my number which was 201 he said that bad damaged liver but im not going you any help until you stop takin testosterone.

    So i said im not i'll be doin it the rest of my days and he said well im sorry i cant help you until you go off test so i got up and left.

    Has anyone any comments on what i should do now.


    Thanks.

  • #2
    Stop taking test.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shibby View Post
      Stop taking test.
      Does eveyone have this problem or is it just me.

      I am gettin all the liver protection i can and im going to take those with my test as i told him.

      Thanks for takin the time to reply.

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      • #4
        You may want to take test until you die, but you only get one liver so that shouldn't take long. Is that what you really want? Your levels are 4 times that of the highest mean point. Unless bodybuilding is your career, I don't see how you could even considered trading your life for AS.

        Were you not taking liver protectants before?

        Is that a fairly current pic of you in your avatar?

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        • #5
          I agree with Shib. Why would you trade your life for that? But i'd like to know too if thats a current pic.

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          • #6
            rado is correct.

            its not basic test that is elevating your liver values so high. not a chance.

            something else is at play here.

            i would also suggest you get a new doc. if you truly have a "bad damaged liver" as he said, there are steps he needs to take to help you. sure getting off steroids or any other drug needs to be done but his attitude is terrible.

            this is part of the problem with people getting blood work done. the way the doc reads it out can be very hard to understand.. and different ranges used makes it even worse.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shibby View Post
              You may want to take test until you die, but you only get one liver so that shouldn't take long. Is that what you really want? Your levels are 4 times that of the highest mean point. Unless bodybuilding is your career, I don't see how you could even considered trading your life for AS.

              Were you not taking liver protectants before?

              Is that a fairly current pic of you in your avatar?

              I was takin liv52 but not now and yes that pic is about 3 weeks old or so.

              Of course i dont want to die but i hate a doc that knows all im thick he is smart i should do what im told and i cant handle that.

              Any point i tried to make he never listened so i didnt then it got heated and i got up and left docs hate to be told advice cos they are self obsessed bstards.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rado
                Test HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ELEVATED liver enzymes....Either you are a heavy drinker, taking drol/dbol, or it runs in your family...I've been having blood work every 6 months for years dating back to early 2000 and have never heard or seen because of test, your liver values would be that elevated....Milk thistle(about 1g a day)will help for sure...It doesn't happen over night though..Your numbers are extreme, very extreme....You more than likely have caused permanent damage to the liver....I'm actually getting blood work done this Friday....But it's NOT because of your test.
                Totally wrong with the greatest of respect it was 42 11 months ago its went up that since then and i DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL and i dont do orals i did Epistane once thats it, and im gettin milk thistle i have more pics of me recently but dont know how to show them, so back to the point 11 months ago it was perfect and i dont drink or do orals for bb, but i am on prescribe meds.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rado
                  What were your other results? You just had your liver values checked?:confused: You drink enough water?
                  Im not a heavy water drinker, my test level was 750 in whatever way they measure it my thyroid was good and liver bad and thats all we got through before i left.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    rado is correct.

                    its not basic test that is elevating your liver values so high. not a chance.

                    something else is at play here.

                    i would also suggest you get a new doc. if you truly have a "bad damaged liver" as he said, there are steps he needs to take to help you. sure getting off steroids or any other drug needs to be done but his attitude is terrible.

                    this is part of the problem with people getting blood work done. the way the doc reads it out can be very hard to understand.. and different ranges used makes it even worse.
                    I said im not stoppin helps me more than yous do and he said well we dont prescriobe it so i cant help you, your right i need a doc that understands.

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                    • #11
                      what brand of test is this again? lol.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                        what brand of test is this again? lol.
                        Iranian test E

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rado
                          Well if it was 42 less than a year ago and now it has jumped up over 150+++ points, it's not the test bro....Something is up and it's more than likely another health issue, or you're just bullshiting on the numbers(not saying you are either, so relax)...Just something doesn't add up.

                          I have blood work posted on here while on a cycle and off a cycle...At times, I was taking orals which made my liver values go up, I was taking other stuff that made my HDL/LDL ratio be all fucked up...I've actually experimented different things to see how my body would react and this is why I got blood work done to prove it otherwise.

                          It's NOT your test bro...
                          Ill tell you what doesnt add dup he said it WAS THE TEST THAT IS DAMAGING MY LIVER THE DOCTOR SAID THAT not me here im not bullshittin ok im tryin to get help why the fuck would i bullshit when i need as much help as i can cos know it all docs wont help he said that I DIDNT.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rado
                            Well I've never seen(my blood work) or have heard of anyone having elevated liver values because of test; period....I guess your body may be different(no pun intended)than most and not tolerate the test, just doesn't add up...Test is NOT 17AA like many other orals... This means it must be processed by the liver before becoming active...So I'm lost here.
                            Think it was my 8 a day medication tabs im takin for health reason and he just wanted to scare me into stoppin test ever think of that, look im not bullshitting one fuckin bit here.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rado
                              What meds were you taking if you don't mind me asking bro?
                              Losamel 20mg 3 times a day, Epilim Chrono 300mg, 3 times a day and 2 Zolmitriptan 2.5mg a day.

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