North Korea's Nuclear advancement

[Mr I]

What are your thoughts, what can be done:

[Bouncer]

i like option 2. action swift tight sanctions and embargo's.
good poll by the way.

[ROCKETW19]

I am not realy into politics or any weird stuff like that. But it is common sence that it is none of our business. We (usa) cant go around telling people what to do.
Now the other side of me is if they are against us and we dont want them to have the wepons we do then fuck the lil sissy bullshiting around and lets handle our business blow them up goto war what ever. Embargos? save it if we (usa) wanna act tough lets do it then. No one likes us anyways so why all the try and play nice shit.

[jwoody]

I am not realy into politics or any weird stuff like that. But it is common sence that it is none of our business. We (usa) cant go around telling people what to do.
Now the other side of me is if they are against us and we dont want them to have the wepons we do then fuck the lil sissy bullshiting around and lets handle our business blow them up goto war what ever. Embargos? save it if we (usa) wanna act tough lets do it then. No one likes us anyways so why all the try and play nice shit.

:thumup:

[beefcake]

We can't sit by and watch that country get stronger and more advanced in weaponry thats sole purpose is mass destruction. We've been to war with them before. They don't have nukes to defend themselves like we do, they have them to attack. I'm sure we're ranked pretty high on their list of who gets punched first.

[blm]

We can't sit by and watch that country get stronger and more advanced in weaponry thats sole purpose is mass destruction. We've been to war with them before. They don't have nukes to defend themselves like we do, they have them to attack. I'm sure we're ranked pretty high on their list of who gets punched first.

Agreed. In a perfect Utopian world we wouldn't have to worry about it, but the fact remains that there has to be a "King of the jungle" and we are it (right now). In reality world peace is a pipe dream. Someone always has to have more power or the upper hand. At the moment it's the US. Someday, sadly enough, that probably will not be the case, but in the meantime...lose the nukes and bow down before us, lol.

[bigscott]

I am not realy into politics or any weird stuff like that. But it is common sence that it is none of our business. We (usa) cant go around telling people what to do.
Now the other side of me is if they are against us and we dont want them to have the wepons we do then fuck the lil sissy bullshiting around and lets handle our business blow them up goto war what ever. Embargos? save it if we (usa) wanna act tough lets do it then. No one likes us anyways so why all the try and play nice shit.

feel the same way bro

[NewbieChris]

What are your thoughts, what can be done:

Nothing, the international community (UN) has little pull in the world and the United States and other "western nations" have lost the fear we once instilled in our enemies.

[NewbieChris]

North Korea Threatens Armed Strike, End to Armistice (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

This is provocation enough for every country involved in the Armistice to start lighting up North Korea like the shit hole it is, and yet we do nothing.

[Mr I]

Nothing, the international community (UN) has little pull in the world and the United States and other "western nations" have lost the fear we once instilled in our enemies.

I fear you may be right here, they are already a very isolated country with china as their ally and we don't have much to take away from them.

They have now receded the truce that ended the Korean war between north (commies) and South.

Its weird because it looked like Russia was becoming more westernised but N Korea is going the other way.

I think for sure this means that US and GB and Europe should get the missile defence systems in order now.

possibly we should get in bed with Japan who are apparently shitting themselves now.

[Bouncer]

North Korea Threatens Armed Strike, End to Armistice (Update1) - Bloomberg.com

This is provocation enough for every country involved in the Armistice to start lighting up North Korea like the shit hole it is, and yet we do nothing.

in the words of the guy that played the president in the independence day movie... NUKE THE BASTARDS

[Bouncer]

I fear you may be right here, they are already a very isolated country with china as their ally and we don't have much to take away from them.

They have now receded the truce that ended the Korean war between north (commies) and South.

Its weird because it looked like Russia was becoming more westernised but N Korea is going the other way.

I think for sure this means that US and GB and Europe should get the missile defence systems in order now.

possibly we should get in bed with Japan who are apparently shitting themselves now.

north Korea has always acted up every time Iran gets more media attention. its like 2 assholes trying to fight over a girl, they resort to desperate measures. lol

[Bouncer]

i tell ya something else, time to stop dicking around in Iraq and Afghanistan. limit those wars to the drone predator strikes.

this house to house town to town shit is going no where fast.

[Mr I]

i tell ya something else, time to stop dicking around in Iraq and Afghanistan. limit those wars to the drone predator strikes.

this house to house town to town shit is going no where fast.

thought this for a long time, spend the money on more efficient home developed energy sources, shore up the borders from drugs and GTFO of there. We got rid of the Dictator in Iraq its up to them now, we're not going to find Osama Bin Ladenhosen just don't let any of the fuckers in.

[NewbieChris]

I fear you may be right here, they are already a very isolated country with china as their ally and we don't have much to take away from them.

They have now receded the truce that ended the Korean war between north (commies) and South.

Its weird because it looked like Russia was becoming more westernised but N Korea is going the other way.

I think for sure this means that US and GB and Europe should get the missile defence systems in order now.

possibly we should get in bed with Japan who are apparently shitting themselves now.

Long story short:

-Ally with China
-Communism isn't the enemy, extremism on either political spectrum is
-Work together and fuck Kim Jong Il up

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The most realistic solution the the "North Korea" problem is to ally with China. We differ socially with them, and condemn them for their manufacturing / working / living standards. That shit is getting old, because they provide the United States with cheap labor and cheap goods. So we condemn them, then look the other way. We have always had tensions because of it, but everyday we see workers gaining more and more rights. This process will not be completed over night.

China could be our greatest ally (Sorry Mr I, but its true) if we (US) could get off our high horse. China has already condemned North Koreas actions because, regardless of how they feel about the US, they have an understanding of free markets, and the reason the US doesn't just bomb everyone it dislikes. China is intelligent enough to know it has, and will have even more, international influence to exert and some of the responsibilities to world stability that come with that.

If we pleased China, by say easing our hounding of their working standards and allowing them more say in the IMF (if any), nothing would be lost in The United States. We would become greater friends and China would possibly out rightly start to condemn the actions of what is truly a rouge state. This would have to happen quickly, which it won't, and it would have to actually be feasible, which its not.

However, the point stands that Communism has never been the enemy of Capitalism it has been the balance to it. Government control is needed to oversee free markets. A free market balance will never be reached, so one country will always be *more* communist and another *more* capitalist. However, we look at things in distinct lines which requires us to side as humans with one choice. China is communists, controls its media, etc. However, the United States owns many of its large companies currently and is not letting go easily. We control what is on TV, maybe to less of an extent. We even have domestic spies watching everything I post (even if it is a computer algorithm). I have never been to china, so I don't know how much the government there influences their daily life, but government influence is everywhere here as well (Which is actually more socialism, but whatever I'm not that smart).

Sorry for the long winded response. It just makes so much sense of the US to work with China to shut that faggot Kim Jong Il up. Hes a real fucking piece of work, his people wouldn't be able to eat if it weren't for western nations, but he says WE are the threat!