help with philosophy...

[mofo]

[dna9488]

http://www.naturesongs.com/cricket1.wav

lol you ass

[Shibby]

http://www.naturesongs.com/cricket1.wav

[mofo]

*crickets, crickets, crickets*

you weren't included in that statement shibster.

[Shibby]

*crickets, crickets, crickets*

[mofo]

finished my paper. i had my professor giving a good look over it and he added a lot of funny/good points. if anyone is truly interested (which i'm sure a majority of you aren't) i'll pm you a copy.

[mofo]

Ok, so write about you being a woman that only can figure what she doesn't want to write about. That would qualify as AI :D

oh shibbster.

[mindstar]

what makes us different than robots/computers is that we're capable of reproduction and therefore evolution. Our learning and adaptation lead to further adaptations in further generations. The issue with computers is that their evolution is not determined by their environment and their own reproduction, but rather by our desires.

Frustration is an abstract concept which manifests itself as an emotional response to failure. For computers to realize emotional responses and complex abstract ones at that would require a semiotic understanding of language which passes the binary code on which their predicated. Enotions and abstract thought demand that two opposing propostitions are able to be understood as true, concurrently. Until a computer can do this, it will not experience frustration.

[the art of war]

Ok, so write about you being a woman that only can figure what she doesn't want to write about. That would qualify as AI :D

:rofl:

priceless response.

[Shibby]

Ok, so write about you being a woman that only can figure what she doesn't want to write about. That would qualify as AI :D

[mofo]

Just throwing stuff out here... Can intelligence be an "artificial" thing? If an organic material is used to create the learning capacity in something like a cyborg, is it really artificial?

Can a learning computer ever be anything more if it can't go against the probability factors or most popular response? Take IRobot for example: The robot saved Will Smith instead of going for the child. Sunny killed his "Father/Creator" because he was angry or tricked. Could a learning computer ever have a bond beyond rationality? Even Sunny wouldn't be able to understand risking your life to save a loved one. Only would know that it's done.

in the iRobot situation you could say that sunny processed the pros/cons at a deeper level than just what would be good now but actually what would be good in the future.

[Konitz]

What's that old book about the robots that take over?

[Shibby]

Just throwing stuff out here... Can intelligence be an "artificial" thing? If an organic material is used to create the learning capacity in something like a cyborg, is it really artificial?

Can a learning computer ever be anything more if it can't go against the probability factors or most popular response? Take IRobot for example: The robot saved Will Smith instead of going for the child. Sunny killed his "Father/Creator" because he was angry or tricked. Could a learning computer ever have a bond beyond rationality? Even Sunny wouldn't be able to understand risking your life to save a loved one. Only would know that it's done.

[mofo]

Would it work to argue AI versus a learning computer?

we used learning computers as an example of weak AI. but do share how you'd argue AI against a learning computer?

[Shibby]

Would it work to argue AI versus a learning computer?