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  • #16
    The quest for knowledge and discovery can never stop. If our race is to survive we need to move away from this planet, earth won't be here forever..

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    • #17
      This article referenced in the one of topic shows how much we can learn about our own planet by studying others.

      Saturn's Largest Moon Has Ingredients for Life?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
        The quest for knowledge and discovery can never stop. If our race is to survive we need to move away from this planet, earth won't be here forever..
        Eventually. But at the rate we are going, we will wipe ourselves out via nuclear warfare, pollution, wiping out food sources, etc. LONG before we will be able to colonize another planet.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The_Grinder View Post
          I'm afraid I have to side with scott on this one. I know the debate on space exploration will be going on forever, but to see billions and billions being dumped into this program, when there is so much we need to invest in this planet's future. These tax dollars would be so much better spent on improving the deplorable health care situations in many countries, cleaner energy, renewable resources, etc. (In short, things that would have a direct benefit for the beings on this planet)

          The argument I hear a lot is the constant exploration of the unknown frontier and constant progress. (i.e. Christopher Columbus and America) So is the ultimate goal of the space program to find a new planet that might be habitable for humans? What good is that going to do if we can't even use our own resources responsibly?

          That being said, I do agree that we need limited space exploration funds to improve our planet. (For example: Satellite communications and networking, satellite to monitor own own planet, ozone layer, and weather, and even studying different space objects that may pose a threat to our planet) But seriously, please tell me how water being on Mars, or bacteria that lives on Arsenic, makes life a shred better for anyone here on Earth. Still the same number of kids going to bed hungry, still thousands of species on Earth going extinct in the next few years, still pollution eating up the ozone, etc.
          amen brother -- lets keep pissing away much needed funds to help this country out chasing a pipe dream

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          • #20
            There will always be problems in a country or on our planet. If bigscott had lived in Christopher Columbus day he would have said the money spent on his expedition could be used for better things and to fix the problems of Europe etc.. It's small thinking.

            Science, the quest for knowledge, and exploration can never stop. This is not something that can be argued.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
              There will always be problems in a country or on our planet. If bigscott had lived in Christopher Columbus day he would have said the money spent on his expedition could be used for better things and to fix the problems of Europe etc.. It's small thinking.

              Science, the quest for knowledge, and exploration can never stop. This is not something that can be argued.
              Once again, I stand by the fact that if the ultimate goal is to colonize another planet, we first need to learn how to manage our own resources efficiently. Who's to say we would do a better job not destroying the next planet? I struggle to believe that finding out there is water on mars, bacteria that eat arsenic, etc. is more beneficial to the human race than coming up with a more efficient form of energy to run the planet.

              Please, someone tell me something the space program has done in the past 20 years (besides the launching of communication/tracking satellites) that has had a concrete benefit toward the human race.

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              • #22
                Understanding of the universe and new findings is reason enough.

                You think like I would expect a person from South Carolina to think.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                  Understanding of the universe and new findings is reason enough.

                  You think like I would expect a person from South Carolina to think.
                  Yeah down in South Carolina we like to have something concrete to back up our argument. All I asked for was a concrete benefit that the space program has provided in the past few years. I don't think water on Mars counts.

                  I'm all for advancement, but these are public tax dollars that are going into this program. The fact that things like cancer research, solar energy, renewable resources, etc. (all scientific studies) are privately funded while sending robots to mars is getting $20 billion a year from the taxpayers (while unemployment meanwhile has climbed to almost 10%) is pathetic.

                  I'm all about expanding our horizons, but our priorities are all screwed up. Like I said, we won't have enough time to make our advancements mean anything at this point... humans will wipe themselves out LONG before anything like that becomes a reality.

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                  • #24
                    On a side note, if NASA could truly convince anyone of the humanitarian benefit of the space program, it would be able to find private investors willing to fund the program.

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                    • #28
                      Oh and by the way, that little hillbilly computer you are typing on, the processor it uses, the internet that gives you the ability to ask your stupid fucken questions... they were all given to you in large part by NASA.

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                      • #29
                        First of all, you have misunderstood my argument. I never claimed NASA as an organization hasn't done any good. I'm referring to the deep space probes, searching for alien life, etc. I am referring to the continuing space program. (Excluding our own Earth Satellites) Everything you posted was either technology that NASA came up with, that coincidentally served a purpose on Earth, or projects NASA researched on our own planet (I am in 100% support of this, and think more of that annual $20 billion needs to go towards this). None of these articles refer to anything that has been found in space that can be used to benefit the human race. The water on Mars can't cure cancer, and the Arsenic-eating bacteria aren't going to eliminate Greenhouse gasses.

                        Basically my argument is this... NASA has some of the smartest scientists in the world. They have done a lot of good when they have focused their efforts here on Earth. (Which is what your articles represent) They have even given use some useful technology that have been used in Space travel, that happen to be useful on Earth. But in the 50+ years of space exploration, what have they found IN SPACE that has helped us out?

                        Like I stated earlier, I am not TOTALLY against the space program. There are plenty of benefits of having a firm grasp on Earth's orbit. See here:

                        Originally posted by The_Grinder View Post
                        ....That being said, I do agree that we need limited space exploration funds to improve our planet. (For example: Satellite communications and networking, satellite to monitor own own planet, ozone layer, and weather, and even studying different space objects that may pose a threat to our planet) But seriously, please tell me how water being on Mars, or bacteria that lives on Arsenic, makes life a shred better for anyone here on Earth. Still the same number of kids going to bed hungry, still thousands of species on Earth going extinct in the next few years, still pollution eating up the ozone, etc.

                        (Oh, and as far as your cute little hillbiller computer comment... Many many hands played a part in creating the internet as we know it. We would most definately have the internet today even if we didn't go further into space than it took to place all of our orbiting satellites. As a matter of fact, the first operation packet switching program was called the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was created by a research team at MIT and the United States Department of Defense, not NASA! Source: National Science Foundation - nsf.gov - NSF and the Birth of the Internet - Special Report)

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                        • #30
                          grinder you do understand that the earth is in space dont you?

                          you talk like it is this far away place that has no bearing or meaning to earth and us. its not some insignificant thing out there that far far away like you seem think. we are IN IT. it is us.

                          the on going discovery's of distant solar systems, star explosions, black holes etc.. will one day answer the questions of how and why everything exist.

                          once again, the importance of exploration and discovery can not be overstated.

                          the same arguments you and scott are making now are no different then all the arguments made throughout history of explorers. at one time people saw the vast oceans as you and scott view space. they couldnt see the bigger picture, they could only think small...
                          Last edited by Bouncer; 12-06-10, 12:42 PM.

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