Liver Values are Fucked up

[ROCKETW19]

telling you guys. training itself raises liver values. as long as they are not crazy high it not an issue.

Yes I know that and funny thing is it seems like i train leg before every blood test,lol

[ROCKETW19]

No I don't use GH and my values weren't messed up when using pharmacy grade test. But, then again it may not be that at all. Could just be the simple fact that I've been on TRT for 13 or so months straight. Liver probably doesn't like that. Had ultrasound today on liver will get results tomorrow.

good luck on that ultra sound! thats next for me also if its not lowwr next test.

you use milk thistle?

[Juiced1]

Alright, Doctor just called with my liver ultrasound results. No gallstones at all and I don't have a fatty liver. Everything looked perfectly normal in there. She wants me to come back in a week and do another blood test. This just doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe they got my blood mixed up with some couch potatoes blood or something.

[FitnessBrat]

That's good that you have a proactive doctor. I wouldn't be comfortable with "training raises your liver values", without at least some further investigation.

[Bouncer]

I wouldn't be comfortable with "training raises your liver values", without at least some further investigation.

i didn't mean to leave it at that and not worry. i meant that could be a reason for it and when he gets rechecked to try an avoid strenuous lifting a day or 2 before the blood work.

[hitmansb]

i didn't mean to leave it at that and not worry. i meant that could be a reason for it and when he gets rechecked to try an avoid strenuous lifting a day or 2 before the blood work.

I agree...high protein diet can raise liver values too. No sense getting too stressed out if everything else checks out and it's just some very slightly elevated test values.

[Juiced1]

I'm going on a juice fast and doing a liver flush before my next test. If anyone is interested in doing a liver flush via traditional chinese medicine, here is some literature on it:

http://sensiblehealth.com/Journey-01.xhtml

Liver congestion and stagnation are common liver problems. Yet conventional medicine does not understand them and has no test to detect them. In hepatitis or liver inflammation, liver enzyme levels in the blood are elevated because of the ruptured liver cells which contain high contents of liver enzymes. However, in liver congestion or stagnation, liver cells are still intact and liver enzyme levels in blood are normal. Therefore normal clinical tests which rely on liver enzyme levels as a measure of liver condition cannot detect liver congestion or stagnation.

I had blood tests performed a few months before I was diagnosed with badly congested liver by a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner. These tests showed no abnormal liver condition because they simply could not detect liver congestion. I never knew I had liver problems until the Chinese doctor correctly diagnosed my congested liver condition. This was the turning point for my health problems. When my liver became healthy again through a lengthy journey of self-healing (see the Liver cleansing section below), most of my chronic health problems disappeared.

According to Chinese medicine, all internal organs work as a team in the body; the liver is considered the "General" or "Chief of Staff:". Unfortunately, many of our modern prescription drugs are damaging to the liver or kidneys. Over the counter drugs such as painkillers can also cause liver toxicity. Therefore it is not surprising that many people over the age of 50 develop liver weakness or toxicity. Even among healthy people who are not dependent on drugs, the liver has been filtering blood day and night throughout life without being "cleansed". Over the years, circulating blood has deteriorated in quality which goes unnoticed. The end result is often a feeling of sluggishness and heaviness due to poor circulation. Studies linking liver damage to excessive or long-term use of painkillers have been reported.

I come from a family with weak livers. My father died of a stroke at the age of 59. It was very likely related to liver problems as he had been diagnosed as having a weak liver. My uncle became quite sick at the age of 67. His extremities were dark in colour due to poor blood supply and he was very tired and weak. He went to see a western medical doctor and was told that he was beyond help and would not live much longer. He decided to seek a second opinion from a traditional Chinese medical doctor who prescribed a liver cleansing herb (Chinese Gentian) which purges the liver. He is now over 80 and is still healthy.

Weakening of the liver and eventual toxicity are usually slow processes. In many cases the only sign of liver weakness is poor digestion and low energy level. Most people pass this off as something that happens with age. As a result they do little or nothing about it until it is too late. Fortunately, nature has endowed our liver with excellent regenerative powers. If we are able to understand the early signs of degeneration, we have an excellent chance of restoring it to optimal functioning with proper care.

[ROCKETW19]

oh damn curious how hard it will be for you compared to results. keep us posted when you are finnised if it was worth it or not.

[StanG]

udca mey be worth looking into here. rui carries it as far as i know.

[Bouncer]

I'm going on a juice fast and doing a liver flush before my next test. If anyone is interested in doing a liver flush via traditional chinese medicine, here is some literature on it:

How the liver relates to chronic fatigue, age-related vision and memory loss

[Juiced1]

I'm on that flush and man I have some of the worst headaches I've ever had. They said that if you liver is congested and loaded with toxins, the flush will release them into your bloodstream and give you these headaches. Something is definitely going on. Also shitting out yellow/green bile. This flush is legit.

My blood test is on Thursday morning. Probably won't have the results until Monday.

[ROCKETW19]

I'm on that flush and man I have some of the worst headaches I've ever had. They said that if you liver is congested and loaded with toxins, the flush will release them into your bloodstream and give you these headaches. Something is definitely going on. Also shitting out yellow/green bile. This flush is legit.

My blood test is on Thursday morning. Probably won't have the results until Monday.

lol sounds fun! keep us posted

[hitmansb]

I'm on that flush and man I have some of the worst headaches I've ever had. They said that if you liver is congested and loaded with toxins, the flush will release them into your bloodstream and give you these headaches. Something is definitely going on. Also shitting out yellow/green bile. This flush is legit.

My blood test is on Thursday morning. Probably won't have the results until Monday.

Can't wait to find out if this worked, or if the herb just made you sick.

[Juiced1]

Can't wait to find out if this worked, or if the herb just made you sick.

Along with the herbs, I'm doing the flush. I drank organic apple juice for 4 days with with food and then the past two days I drank nothing but the apple juice without any food. It's a juice fast. The reason for the apple juice is that it has malic acid in it and malic acid flushes toxins out of the liver. You can also just take malic acid tabs if you don't want to drink the juice.

At the end of that two day juice fast I drink a mixture of 1/2 cup olive oil mixed with 1/2 cup lemon juice and shit my insides out. There are some youtube videos where people actually get liver and gallbladder stones out this way. Here is one:

TOXIC WASTE=LIVER CLEANSE is REAL I got out 20 large stones &25 to 50 small ones 1of2 - YouTube

And this is the doctor who created this:

How To Do The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush - YouTube

[StanG]

Did you ever see the vid exposing this as a sham ? Its posted somehwere on you tube. The "stones" are nothing more than fat according to the guy who claims to have exposed it as a total fraud. Im not saying it is or isnt..i just remember seeing and reading about it.