Dad Daughter date...

[Bouncer]

I do as I had no ol' man he was a piece of shit. I vowed Id NEVER be like that. Im always gonna be here for um... as they get older and move on Im sure I will as well..until then it is what it is...

and you fuckers wonder why Im in the swamps...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

nah you dont get it bro. "Being there" for your kids does not mean you have to stay with someone you pretty much hate. They can see that toxic environment. I guarantee you would each be better parents to them separately. You can do all the same things you are doing with your kids now.

[lipripper]

different perspectives. i can appericate both of them, however Ive chosen what I feel is right for me to do for my kids. they come first over me.

[Bouncer]

I feel is right for me to do for my kids. they come first over me.

and by coming first do you mean leading by example and showing your kids what a normal and happy relationship you have with your wife is? do you want your son or daughter to have a relationship with their husband/wife as you do with yours?

sorry to get personal bro but being a great dad does not mean staying with someone you hate. you would be a great father to your kids regardless. I am sure they would rather see you happy with the person you are with.

that said, i will now stfu. :P

[FitnessBrat]

and by coming first do you mean leading by example and showing your kids what a normal and happy relationship you have with your wife is? do you want your son or daughter to have a relationship with their husband/wife as you do with yours?

sorry to get personal bro but being a great dad does not mean staying with someone you hate. you would be a great father to your kids regardless. I am sure they would rather see you happy with the person you are with.

that said, i will now stfu. :P

I'm not going to get preachy either, but this is just so very true. The only difference, I speak from experience (marital/parental).

You are not doing your children any favors by "staying together." Often times, it's more damaging because then children realize you stayed FOR them, and feel guilty, etc. Not because you made them feel that way by any words or actions, it's just a natural emotion.

Kids want nothing more than for their parents to be happy. And that means as a family unit, or as separate entities. The best thing you can do for your child, is take care of their father/mother (whichever applies to YOU). It sounds like something so obvious, but it's not as easily done as it is said. I know I am a much better parent now, than I was when things were heading south in my marriage. I also appreciate my time spent with my children so much more. It's hard to explain, but it's different, and we all feel it.

I hate to see people unhappy, and then next thing you know 10 years have passed and....you're still in the same place - unhappy. That just brings out so much regret later down the road.

I think you're a great dad Rip, and I know you're doing what you think is right, but life is so very short and I know you and your wife deserve the same happiness you're trying to provide your children.

[Bouncer]

I hate to see people unhappy, and then next thing you know 10 years have passed and....you're still in the same place

this.

life is way to fucken short to not enjoy yourself. fuck that. i want no regrets.