The evolution of tech and its effect on jobs

[chuckz28]

I enjoy this channel on Youtube because he always shows the latest and greatest upcoming technology but this short video is different from his normal ones. There is well laid out history of how we have behaved toward advancement of technology from the beginning of humans leading up to why we shouldn't shun robotic technology going forward.

https://youtu.be/AsACeAkvFLY

The jist of it for those that cant watch. The explanation of the Luddite Fallacy and why the fear of advancement of technology will not lead to structural unemployment. Technology allows us to free ourselves to tackle more important tasks as humans as well as increase in standard of living for everyone.

[Bouncer]

The explanation of the Luddite Fallacy and why the fear of advancement of technology will not lead to structural unemployment. Technology allows us to free ourselves to tackle more important tasks as humans as well as increase in standard of living for everyone.

For people with an education and specialty I would agree. But for the Mcdonalds type minimum wage worker the future looks bleak. Mindless/skillless jobs will be replaced by tech and those jobs wont be replaced at a rate equal to the employment rates pre tech. Tech will need maintenance and programming but again that takes a certain level of skill/education. As tech becomes more and more streamlined and efficient the less human hands will be required to maintain it.

Truck driver days are also numbered. When tech gets to the point where it's obvious that it will save the trucking company millions by not having to pay drivers anymore shit will hit the fan. That time period is about 10 years from now. Your going to see mass protests and riots. Road blockades etc.. Mark my words.

With all that said, I am a huge fan of tech and progress. It cannot be stopped and it will make for a better world. But, make no mistake, we will go through massive growing pains to get there. The world will be a very different place and many people will get left behind.

[chuckz28]

It is the way of things. If we kept the idea to shun tech because of jobs wed still be using horses and making our own thread goods and services would be extremely expensive. The video really puts it into perspective.

[Bouncer]

It is the way of things. If we kept the idea to shun tech because of jobs wed still be using horses and making our own thread goods and services would be extremely expensive. The video really puts it into perspective.

agree 100%. progress cannot and will not be stopped. i'm just saying that people will absolutely be left out in the cold.

[chuckz28]

Well on one hand for example it isn't as if self driving trucks will take over in a years time. It will take over a 10 year period for companies to afford to make the transition a few trucks at a time. During that time some drivers might go to school for more advanced jobs others will find other roles but they will be freed up to do other things. I don't think it will ever be a dramatic explosion of jobs lost at one time. A 10 year period is enough time to move people from one ancient job to something else.

Another thing to consider is the DOT and regulations. I think we will see self driving cars long before DOT controlled trucks and both of them before Aircraft. The government will want them to test the living shit out of it and have to make all kinds of regulations before it even gets off the ground.

[Bouncer]

I agree chuck, it wont be overnight. But when the tech is in place and it gets to that critical point where the price of paying human workers is higher than implementing the tech things will change very quickly. We still depend on those minimum wage type people for many daily things. Those people are going to be a big problem. Lets face it, some people aren't very bright. Some people are only cut out for mindless minimal tasks. Many many of these people will not have the mental capacity to foresee what they need to do before it happens.

[chuckz28]

Yeah I suppose as bad as it is to say, some people just aren't cut out for anything more than the most simplistic of jobs. They will never be smart enough to handle anything with serious thought. Although I do think most will be able to adapt to something else there will always be a portion of the population that isn't cut out for the advancement of the species.

[Bouncer]

yup, and lets face it, in order to advance sometimes you have to "cleanse" and weed out the weak link.

[chuckz28]

Spoken like a true dictator :grin:

[Bouncer]

It's politically incorrect to ever give someone like Hitler any credit, but he actually had many things right. Early on he completely rejuvenated the German economy. I also happen to agree with him on people with extreme mental illness. It's not "nice" to say but these people are an absolute cancer to society and there really is no place for them but to be erased. Violent criminals or multiple theft criminals with proven guilt should also be erased. Where hitler went wrong was extending that idea to groups of people (jews) who had much to offer to a society and an economy. The Jews were a power house in the world of science. To kill off great knowledge is the biggest mistake he ever made. This was also the downfall of the Soviet Union. They killed off anyone they saw as a threat which also happened to be some of their most brilliant people. Knowledge should never be attacked, it should be embraced.

[Turbo3000]

It's politically incorrect to ever give someone like Hitler any credit, but he actually had many things right. Early on he completely rejuvenated the German economy. I also happen to agree with him on people with extreme mental illness. It's not "nice" to say but these people are an absolute cancer to society and there really is no place for them but to be erased. Violent criminals or multiple theft criminals with proven guilt should also be erased. Where hitler went wrong was extending that idea to groups of people (jews) who had much to offer to a society and an economy. The Jews were a power house in the world of science. To kill off great knowledge is the biggest mistake he ever made. This was also the downfall of the Soviet Union. They killed off anyone they saw as a threat which also happened to be some of their most brilliant people. Knowledge should never be attacked, it should be embraced.

Maybe have a child of your own before telling others whom you think should be "erased".

You sure do have a lot of answers. What field do your work in?

[Bouncer]

If your child qualifies as "extreme mental illness" I apologize as I meant no offense to you personally. Though I can surely understand how you couldn't possibly take it any other way.

[Turbo3000]

If your child qualifies as "extreme mental illness" I apologize as I meant no offense to you personally. Though I can surely understand how you couldn't possibly take it any other way.

My child does not, but having a child makes me see a lot of things differently.

[Bouncer]

While I can certainly understand that I still stick to my point in the context of human advancement and progress. Sometimes human emotion can get in the way of what's needed. It's called necessary evil.

[Bouncer]

By the way, let me be clear. I said "extreme mental illness". I don't mean common issues like dyslexia or autism. I'm talking about the type of mental illness where someone has to be locked up in an institution. It's a drain on everyone and its no kind of life for the patient.