When political correctness holds back science

[Mr I]

Science was irrefutable that tge world was flat, because nobody had the knowledge to refute it at the time.

I have no lean either way I'm just saying nothing is certain as long as knowledge is evolving and more investigative concepts are created. One shouldn't create barriers and limitations.

All you can say is that at this time, the evidence put forward suggests we originated from Africa. Certain groups there for appear to have faired better and splintered off forraged migrated and excelled, while others are still throwing each other on the fire on the basis of vodoo witchcraft and eating insects

[Bouncer]

Scrum I'm not denying the origin at all. I am with you 100%. But I'm taking about evolution since then. I'm talking about race and culture in terms of the last 10,000 years, not our origin's. I'm talking about race and culture as they stand now. The clear differences. You can admit clear physical advantage correct? I'm sure you have eyes, I'm sure you've seen who dominates long distance track and field in the Olympics...

Yet somehow you can't see the clear mental advantage or disadvantage of groups as a whole. How many black skinned fortune 500 company ceo's? How many black skinned countries lead the world? How many black skinned employees of NASA? Again, once you remove individual exceptions and look at the big picture like a survey you get a clear view of the reality. You simply refuse to look.

[Scrumhalf]

Science was irrefutable that tge world was flat, because nobody had the knowledge to refute it at the time.

This is absolutely not true and is a great myth.

The ancient Greeks knew that the earth was not flat. They even did clever experiments to prove this. Pretty much every person of science from that ancient time knew that the Earth was not flat. It is the ignorant dipshits throughout history that believed stuff that science clearly indicated was not true. Back then, it was the flat earth, now it is creationism and climate change denial.

[Mr I]

Scrum I'm not denying the origin at all. I am with you 100%. But I'm taking about evolution since then. I'm talking about race and culture in terms of the last 10,000 years, not our origin's. I'm talking about race and culture as they stand now. The clear differences. You can admit clear physical advantage correct? I'm sure you have eyes, I'm sure you've seen who dominates long distance track and field in the Olympics...

Yet somehow you can't see the clear mental advantage or disadvantage of groups as a whole. How many black skinned fortune 500 company ceo's? How many black skinned countries lead the world? How many black skinned employees of NASA? Again, once you remove individual exceptions and look at the big picture like a survey you get a clear view of the reality. You simply refuse to look.

In before "that's due to racism"

[Bouncer]

This is absolutely not true and is a great myth.

The ancient Greeks knew that the earth was not flat. They even did clever experiments to prove this. Pretty much every person of science from that ancient time knew that the Earth was not flat. It is the ignorant dipshits throughout history that believed stuff that science clearly indicated was not true. Back then, it was the flat earth, now it is creationism and climate change denial.

Umm scrum, up until the Greeks did the shadow and stick experiments the world "knew" the world was flat.

[Scrumhalf]

Yet somehow you can't see the clear mental advantage or disadvantage of groups as a whole. How many black skinned fortune 500 company ceo's? How many black skinned countries lead the world? How many black skinned employees of NASA? Again, once you remove individual exceptions and look at the big picture like a survey you get a clear view of the reality. You simply refuse to look.

Again, you are not hearing what I am saying. I am not denying that blacks have not fared as well in modern society, whether it is business, or science, or whatever. However, I have seen no evidence that it is due to anything other than societal factors.

[Bouncer]

In before "that's due to racism"

That the common excuse but its a simple minded one. In order to hold someone down or force someone to do something (slavery) you have to be in a position of power in the first place. Why was it that certain races achieved this power long before other races? Boom!

[Scrumhalf]

Umm scrum, up until the Greeks did the shadow and stick experiments the world "knew" the world was flat.

Bro, the Greeks invented the scientific method. Until the Greeks came along, there was no empirical science. So, again, I am merely refuting Mr. I's assertion that science back then used to believe that the earth was flat No, science has never believed that.

[Mr I]

This is absolutely not true and is a great myth.

The ancient Greeks knew that the earth was not flat. They even did clever experiments to prove this. Pretty much every person of science from that ancient time knew that the Earth was not flat. It is the ignorant dipshits throughout history that believed stuff that science clearly indicated was not true. Back then, it was the flat earth, now it is creationism and climate change denial.

Makes no difference whatsoever and in fact counter intuitively you just took yourself out at the legs as compared to earlier points and reinforced mine.

If people accept without questioning those "facts" put forward, and dont dare to undertake further research for fear of offending we would never evolve and learn. Research techniques such as dna have revolutionised knowledge, there could be something new round the corner.

[Mr I]

Again, you are not hearing what I am saying. I am not denying that blacks have not fared as well in modern society, whether it is business, or science, or whatever. However, I have seen no evidence that it is due to anything other than societal factors.

You never will if research is blocked on racial ON ethics.

[Bouncer]

Again, you are not hearing what I am saying. I am not denying that blacks have not fared as well in modern society, whether it is business, or science, or whatever. However, I have seen no evidence that it is due to anything other than societal factors.

societal factors come have an origin though bro. Why is it that blacks have come out once again on the bottom? I think there is a strong case that the stronger minded race achieved power first and the weaker minded ended up in their current position.

[Scrumhalf]

Makes no difference whatsoever and in fact counter intuitively you just took yourself out at the legs as compared to earlier points and reinforced mine.

If people accept without questioning those "facts" put forward, and dont dare to undertake further research for fear of offending we would never evolve and learn. Research techniques such as dna have revolutionised knowledge, there could be something new round the corner.

Yes, there can always be new discoveries, but some things are so well established through empirical evidence that it can be pretty much taken as fact.

The earth moves around the sun. That's a fact. Evolution happened and is happening. That's a fact. Humans originated in Africa. That's a fact. The data is so solid that the chances of it being wrong is as likely as the laws of gravity being wrong, which is to say, pretty much infinitesmal.

[Mr I]

societal factors come have an origin though bro. Why is it that blacks have come out once again on the bottom? I think there is a strong case that the stronger minded race achieved power first and the weaker minded ended up in their current position.

What is stronger minded? People with the need to dominate ?

[Bouncer]

What is stronger minded? People with the need to dominate ?

No, stronger minded as in the context of this thread. A higher level brain.

[Mr I]

:rofl:Interesting; 3 great minds here but it's clear who's alpha. I'm white European so I guess that settles fact forever more