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  • Non-insulin diabetes therapy in CDL truckers

    I chose this topic because of both personal interest and commonality with other readers. I was diagnosed with diabetes in 2009, in the middle of CDL training. My doctor put me on metformin 500mg twice daily. In 2013 my new doctor put me on 1,000mg metformin twice-daily, januvia 50mg once daily(later upped to 100mg) then in 2014 my hbA1C was 8.6. She added 10mg of glipizide once daily, this reduced my A1C to 7.6 (2 weeks ago). She has since added another 10mg glipizide with dinner, hopefully this will put me below 7- the desired number. Personally, I take 2000mcg of chromium picolinate twice daily and 20,000iu of vitamin D3 once (will be reduced to 5,000 after a month). From 2012-14 I used AAS to improve my BMI..it helped me lose about 10% bodyfat, a lot for me. I still do 30 minutes of cardio every other day, trying to work up to 65 minutes daily. My questions are:

    #1- what's the "next" pill she'll put me on?(glimpiride 2mg?)

    #2- Should I "sneak" insulin injections(60iu in split doses of N & R daily) to avoid the pill and the weight gain that comes with it? I don't want to be put on insulin as its tough to get your medical card with it.

    #3- Does anyone know how and why bodybuilders use insulin to cut up?

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    Bodybuilders use insulin because it shuttles nutrients into the muscle at a faster rate than normal. The idea is to take a quick acting slin shot like humulin-R post workout, wait 10-15 minutes and then slam 100 grams of carbs and 75 grams protein. supposedly your body will utilize this and force it all into the muscles.

    As promising as that sounds, slin has destroyed modern bodybuilding. its the main reason behind the so called "GH gut" in bodybuilding. it's not the GH itself but the slin and gh combined with shoving massive amounts of food into the gut to grow. this in turn grows or stretched the intestines and belly thus you get a ripped but massive watermelon gut on stage.

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    • #3
      So it's for carb loading then?

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      • #4
        Carb and amino acid. Acts as a nutrient shuttle that's far more efficient than what the body can normally do.

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        • #5
          Glipizide and glimepiride are the same type of drug. So, glimepiride wouldn't be added to your treatment unless glipizide was dropped.

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          • #6
            Insulin use by healthy individuals that have a fully functional blood sugar control feedback mechanism is sketchy and risky at best.

            In your situation, with a compromised endocrine system, non-medically supervised insulin supplementation seems to be a foolhardy choice. Tread very carefully. This stuff can put you in your grave.

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            • #7
              The grave or just make you look like a heap of shit. Shit will put on fat like no other if you eat any dietary fat within 5-6 hours of shot.

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              • #8
                I was going to make a new thread for this but since this is here it fits in well. Scientists at MIT and Harvard have used stem cells to cure type 1 diabetes in mice. Human trials within the next few years. Hopefully it doesn't get battered by pharmaceutical companies. New stem cell treatment could 'cure' type 1 diabetes

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                • #9
                  There is already a surgery for it. Most people don't know the cost of treating this disease, think about taking 5-7 pills daily for the rest of your life. Even with insurance and the $4 generic copays it adds up fast. Insulin with a prescription is expensive, because they prescribe insulin's like levemir for $250 a month which are safer, stronger and have less side effects, the old N & R are for people who can't afford the new stuff or don't have a script for it. The surgeries can be cost prohibitive as well...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by frankenstein View Post
                    There is already a surgery for it. Most people don't know the cost of treating this disease, think about taking 5-7 pills daily for the rest of your life. Even with insurance and the $4 generic copays it adds up fast. Insulin with a prescription is expensive, because they prescribe insulin's like levemir for $250 a month which are safer, stronger and have less side effects, the old N & R are for people who can't afford the new stuff or don't have a script for it. The surgeries can be cost prohibitive as well...
                    The differences between basal and bolus insulin therapy is a lot deeper than cost.

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                    • #11
                      Bad idea.
                      get a great diet going and you wont even miss the old ways of eating. That will cut u up.

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