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What did the orlando shooter say to the bartender?
Shots for everyone
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Read the link. King is a congressman from New York who said the shooter is from Afghanistan. He wasn't. He was born and bred in New York. By being loose and easy with the facts, King displays the kind of intellectual laziness that feeds into the xenophobic narrative. It is highly irresponsible.
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Trump, Peter King (don't know who that is, but I could guess), and some congressman. Sounds pretty political.Originally posted by Scrumhalf View PostI'm the one who makes it political? I'm trying to unpoliticize it by pointing out that this is a screwed up individual committing a hate crime and that's what we should focus on, not the fact that he was muslim or whatever and I'm being accused of politicizing it? Wow.
This idiot that shot up the club was raised on hate. Hated his own desires. And probably hoped that he could be a member of ISIS, his connection to them seems weak. Just a fucked up guy raised on hate that committed an awful act.
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I'm the one who makes it political? I'm trying to unpoliticize it by pointing out that this is a screwed up individual committing a hate crime and that's what we should focus on, not the fact that he was muslim or whatever and I'm being accused of politicizing it? Wow.
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Do you try to make every post political or does it come naturally?Originally posted by Scrumhalf View PostThat link that Rado has posted is a microcosm of all the unAmerican bullshit, all the xenophobic paranoia that Trump is feeding on and encouraging.
Peter King - "the guy is from Afghanistan!". No he isn't, Peter - he's from New York. He is no more from Afghanistan than McVeigh was from Ireland.
The other congressman - "he swore allegiance to ISIS." He claimed that in his 911 call. Any jackass can claim that. iSIS has said that if anyone wants to do any harm to "the infidel," all they need to do is to publicly claim allegiance before/during/after the crime to be counted as a ISIS attack. Doesn't mean anything.
Isis or no Isis. The guy was fucked up. His dad obviously hates America and gays, so this fucked up kid was most likely around hate from the beginning. He wanted to love the cock and was conflicted about it. He could also have been a work for the FBI. They are notorious for paying informants to find dumb unstable individuals and talk the target into committing violent attacks. The fbi will sell the idiot some fake bombs or something and then swoop in and take credit for stopping an attack. The shit is a circus. Maybe this mark went off script and decided to go and do his own thing. Many possibilities exist. Don't forget that many people were also wounded and killed by responding law enforcement. They won't discuss how many were collateral damage, because that doesn't fit the agenda. Realize that the media story is a STORY designed to push an agenda and get views. The entire truth would never be divulged to us simpleton citizens.
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In reality, whats the difference if he had training directly with ISIS or whether hes a nut job that claims allegiance after the fact. It doesnt change the number of people dead and injured. It doesnt change that we should be fighting ISIS in any way we can. It shows the reach and influence of ISIS even more if they never had any contact with him. In my eyes its even worse if he didnt have direct affiliations, yet his motivation could of been partly related to ISIS.
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That link that Rado has posted is a microcosm of all the unAmerican bullshit, all the xenophobic paranoia that Trump is feeding on and encouraging.
Peter King - "the guy is from Afghanistan!". No he isn't, Peter - he's from New York. He is no more from Afghanistan than McVeigh was from Ireland.
The other congressman - "he swore allegiance to ISIS." He claimed that in his 911 call. Any jackass can claim that. iSIS has said that if anyone wants to do any harm to "the infidel," all they need to do is to publicly claim allegiance before/during/after the crime to be counted as a ISIS attack. Doesn't mean anything.
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This is speculation by 2 people that claim he had weapons training with ISIS. There is no hard evidence to prove he was trained by them, nor a direct statement by any person in authority to say that. His pledge to ISIS is valid because he said that when he called the police (I'm waiting for the public release of that 911 call)Originally posted by rado View PostAgain
Orlando Terrorist Had Weapons Training And ISIS Pledge | The Daily Caller
It's simple to search and didn't know either of you couldn't do it.
Not gonna post more links, Google the info...
That article claims a lot, but there is no evidence to back it up
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