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  • lipripper
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    Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
    Ripper, not disagreeing that we need change. But Trump is not the guy to do it. He has no ideas - well let me correct that. He has lots of ideas but they are either complete bullshit, or are deviously crafted to benefit the uber-rich. That's the problem. Yes, Hillary is not a perfect candidate but she is orders of magnitude better than Trump. I really think that Bernie would have been fantastic, although Congress would probably have stymied him at every step.
    what has Clinton..REALLY changed?:rofl:

    Im not saying he is the guy Scrum..but hes the only other option...If Clinton wasn't so crooked..your boy Bernie would have been in..think about it..

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  • lipripper
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    Bouncer....Yea well guess what bro..you can say that and believe it... But you'll just be getting the same mouth full of shit so keep chewing...Im willing to risk the shit we have been eating for a different taste because..try a different cook if you will. I don't think there's really much to risk.....HOPING it may go down a little easier and maybe have some flavor to it.. Im tired of eating the same shit..

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  • Scrumhalf
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    Ripper, not disagreeing that we need change. But Trump is not the guy to do it. He has no ideas - well let me correct that. He has lots of ideas but they are either complete bullshit, or are deviously crafted to benefit the uber-rich. That's the problem. Yes, Hillary is not a perfect candidate but she is orders of magnitude better than Trump. I really think that Bernie would have been fantastic, although Congress would probably have stymied him at every step.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by lipripper View Post
    I just look at Trump as he's the first outsider we have had. The Clintons have been in the white house and politics for too long. Nothing will change. We do need change in America..we need to get people back to work..the traditional 40 hour work week needs to come back, our military needs to get back in check as it has been completely broken by this ass clown and his administration and we need to get our immigration system in check. I have no problem with immigrants...just do it legally no more of this open border bullshit where we support millions of people. We support enough of our own that are too lazy to work or cant find it. we don't need others sucking off the system. Fix US..then worry about the rest of the world. Honestly...if you don't believe in US first..then give your paycheck away to someone else... let me know how that goes over with your family's...wife...kids... I bet you wont care that much about them then, that whole perspective will change....
    But trump doesn't know how to do any of those things. He's an outsider in the same way that Payton Manning is an outsider. Just because he's had some success in a different aspect of life does not mean he would make a better president. Again, the debate tells you everything. He is absolutely clueless and has no idea how to actually stand behind his 1 liners.

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  • lipripper
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    I just look at Trump as he's the first outsider we have had. The Clintons have been in the white house and politics for too long. Nothing will change. We do need change in America..we need to get people back to work..the traditional 40 hour work week needs to come back, our military needs to get back in check as it has been completely broken by this ass clown and his administration and we need to get our immigration system in check. I have no problem with immigrants...just do it legally no more of this open border bullshit where we support millions of people. We support enough of our own that are too lazy to work or cant find it. we don't need others sucking off the system. Fix US..then worry about the rest of the world. Honestly...if you don't believe in US first..then give your paycheck away to someone else... let me know how that goes over with your family's...wife...kids... I bet you wont care that much about them then, that whole perspective will change....

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    Nope not doing that at all. I actually agree more with trump than I do hillary. It's just that trump acts like a complete idiot and doesn’t know how to deliver his message in a professional manner. I do really like Pence and thought he did great last night at the debate. Like Chuck said, it’s a shame he isn’t running, it would make my vote a lot easier.
    you agree with trump in what way? that he will build a wall and have the Mexicans pay for it? you do relaize those are just words that have no weight behind them right? It's like a kid running for class president who says "every period will be gym class". It's fun to think about but it's not what's going to happen.

    Bro he says words and 1 liners and hopes they stick with the Archy Bunker types. If they don't he simply says something else. His whole deal is never admit a wrong and declare any loss as a victory. Sadly it sounds like you've bought into it.

    "Make America Great Again" is a hook like a song. it's a headliner. it something simple that common folk can understand and relate to. his team sat down and said "what can we come up with that will hook the simple jacks of america." Sure enough, we've got a bunch of dur hur fucks running around repeating "make america great again dur hur". It means nothing. Understand that. It's an advertisement. It's a commcercial. It's meant to sell you.

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  • rado
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    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    Nope not doing that at all. I actually agree more with trump than I do hillary. It's just that trump acts like a complete idiot and doesn’t know how to deliver his message in a professional manner. I do really like Pence and thought he did great last night at the debate. Like Chuck said, it’s a shame he isn’t running, it would make my vote a lot easier.
    agreed:thumb::clapback:

    but this is what I like about him, it's basically go fuck yourself and get shit done or gtfo of my way(<<<door is open...let me go get some popcorn)

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  • Chadd77
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    that means you're voting with emotion. anything done with emotion is usually done with an unclear mind.

    i don't like her at all. she's not the type of person i'd invite over for dinner. but if you can still vote for trump after watching that debate i dont know what else to say.

    its like rado vs scrum in a debate about engineering. rado gets destroyed but because you dont like scrum you side with rado even though you know scrum just handed him his ass.

    that's what your doing. you're voting with your heart instead of your mind so to speak.
    Nope not doing that at all. I actually agree more with trump than I do hillary. It's just that trump acts like a complete idiot and doesn’t know how to deliver his message in a professional manner. I do really like Pence and thought he did great last night at the debate. Like Chuck said, it’s a shame he isn’t running, it would make my vote a lot easier.

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  • chuckz28
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    I watched the VP debate yesterday wishing that those two were the ones running for president instead. Then at least the debate would be on issues not qualifications and trustworthiness.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    I watched it. I hear what you're saying but still hate Hillary so much. I just would never be able to vote her in.
    that means you're voting with emotion. anything done with emotion is usually done with an unclear mind.

    i don't like her at all. she's not the type of person i'd invite over for dinner. but if you can still vote for trump after watching that debate i dont know what else to say.

    its like rado vs scrum in a debate about engineering. rado gets destroyed but because you dont like scrum you side with rado even though you know scrum just handed him his ass.

    that's what your doing. you're voting with your heart instead of your mind so to speak.

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  • Scrumhalf
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    Originally posted by lipripper View Post
    So..How did that work out for ya...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Sorry scrum..i couldn't help myself:grin::grin:...you really left your ass open for that one:rofl::rofl::rofl:
    Yeah, I would have preferred Bernie, no question. He is a decent, hardworking man who genuinely wants to do good and is not beholden to any outside interests. Unfortunately, it was not to be.

    But this much I know - much as I would have preferred Bernie to Hillary, Hillary is far, far, far better than the orange one. The guy just isn't qualified to be a state senator or assemblyman, leave alone a statesman.

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  • Chadd77
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    As unlikable and unrelatable as Hilary is, she is certainly more qualified to run the country. The debate made that clear. He was exposed. Forget the parties. Chadd, watch the debates bro. You'll be blown away by just how dumb he came across. We cannot have that as President.
    I watched it. I hear what you're saying but still hate Hillary so much. I just would never be able to vote her in.

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  • lipripper
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    Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
    I voted for Bernie!

    So..How did that work out for ya...:rofl::rofl::rofl:



    Sorry scrum..i couldn't help myself:grin::grin:...you really left your ass open for that one:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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  • Scrumhalf
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    Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
    Scrum, I know you're a strong democrat. Do you feel the same about Hillary as a lot of republicans feel about Trump? You're forced to vote your party just so "the other guy" doesn't get voted in?
    She's not my favorite - I am pretty liberal and I like Bernie a lot and voted for him in the Oregon primary, but she's eminently qualified to be the President, given her immense experience. Not to mention that the guy across the table from her is such a complete trainwreck.

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  • chuckz28
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    Hey Chadd, you can always hope that with the Hillary presidency that a Republican controlled House and/or Senate she won't get much of anything done. As for the SCOTUS pick, that boat sailed when dude died on a Democrats watch. Won't be the last time that happens. In 4 more years we get to do this all over again and hopefully there is at least one decent choice.

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