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  • also to all you obama haters. trump likes him now. lol

    Obama's not-so-secret admirer: Donald Trump | Reuters

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    • Outraged by the election? It could be because you moralize rationality | Ars Technica

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      • lol

        Mexican cement maker ready to help Trump build border wall | Reuters

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        • Serious message, guys.

          For those of you with ageing parents who depend on Medicare or (shudder), Obamacare, please have a sit down talk with them about their coverage.

          The new administration is stocking the health and human service dept with anti Medicare people, plus their Obamacare repacememt will indeed reduce premiums for younger people but raise them for older people. They are also working hard with Paul Ryan on privatizing Medicare. If you are older, on fixed income and of failing health , you may be in a whole lot of trouble.

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          • Terrible

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            • Originally posted by Mr I View Post
              Terrible
              You may want to wait and see how things go before you move here, Mr. I.

              If you've got money and health, it's all good. But given the cast of characters being assembled in the Cabinet, and the fact that the GOP controls all 3 bodies of govt, if you are older and down on your luck, the US is likely to become a much more cold-hearted and scary place than it already is.

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              • Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                if you are old and down on your luck
                He should reconsider

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                • Air conditioning company Carrier said Tuesday that it had reached an agreement with President-elect Donald Trump that would keep 1,000 jobs in Indianapolis.

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                  • From all the people I talk to and from my personal experience, Obomacare sucks! Not saying it doesn't benefit some people but for the working class people prices have gone way up. I can afford the price increase but I know many that are struggling to. My brother in law is in business for himself and the cheapest insurance he can get for his family is $2K a month. My mom and step dad both semi retired but continue to work part time. They are 2 years away from being able to get medicare and next year their insure will go up to $30K a year. lol How can people afford that? Something has to change.

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                    • Originally posted by redback View Post
                      He should reconsider
                      You will live to regret that comment. He will remember it for years to come. :D

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                      • :rofl:

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                        • They have been talking about privatizing medicare here for the last 2 years. Not sure it will ever happen.

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                          • All I'm saying is that the guys he's got in there are sharks who have been circling Medicare and Medicaid for a long time. We'll see what happens but the changes Price and Ryan are proposing look scary.

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                            • Originally posted by redback View Post
                              They have been talking about privatizing medicare here for the last 2 years. Not sure it will ever happen.
                              The difference is that they have control over both houses and the presidency, and more importantly, the HHS secretary to be, and the Speaker of the House are both motivated to do it. Dems can filibuster, but if McConnell changes the Senate rules, that won't help.

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                              • Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                                All in saying is that the guys he's got in there are sharks who have been circling Medicare and Medicaid for a long time. We'll see what happens but the changes Price and Ryan are proposing look scary.
                                Changes are needed. It is not sustainable in the current model. It is frustrating to watch diabetics and COPD patients, for example, refuse to treat themselves correctly. They don't care because they have no skin in the game. People need to prepare for their future. I'm not planning to have any social security when I'm 70. The program will be bankrupt long before then. Government fucked up Healthcare and they then tried to fix it. What a novel idea.

                                It is easy to read about healthcare in the bias media, it is different working in it everyday.


                                And Scrum, your inbox is full.
                                Last edited by Turbo3000; 11-30-16, 09:42 AM.

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