Fastest F1 car

[Mr I]

Was back in 1986 https://youtu.be/4JIXPqgwQHk

[Mr I]

And 10 years before that you had this https://youtu.be/yE-jkSwyD-E

[Bouncer]

Depends on the track. There were a few lap records broken last year with current f1 cars.

No doubt though the older cars were better to watch. The smaller engine more aerodynamic modern cars are all about down force and computers. Those older cars were all about mechanical grip and screaming engines.

This whole tire saving and fuel saving bs they are doing today is just lame. The drivers can't go flat out because they have limited sets of tires.

But back to the point, I believe 3-4 track records were broken last year during qualifying so your statement is not 100% correct. They were faster in a straight line back then so tracks with long straights would favor the older cars. The modern cars can corner much faster though.

The good news though is that Bernie is gone! That old fuck was killing f1.

[Mr I]

With turbo engaged they topped at near 1450bhp. Nothing today is faster and yes I mean straight line. Also at that power they were pretty exciting to watch

You are very much informed about f1

I'm just saying at basic level

[Bouncer]

When I hear "faster" in f1 I think about lap times. After all, we aren't talking about drag racing here. "Most powerful" would have been a better choice of words my good fellow. :D

This years cars with the wider tires are supposed to be faster per lap by 2-3 seconds compared to last year's cars so expect even more lap records to be broken.

As always it will be the Mercs and the Redbulls leading the charge. Ferrari playing catch-up and getting outsmarted by superior German engineering at every turn. Fucken lazy Italians. :D

[Bouncer]

Also, due to modern advances in gearbox technology, modern cars go through the gears much faster than the older higher HP cars. So for example in a zero to 100mph race a modern car would destroy the older more powerful cars. Only at the top end would the HP of the older cars come into play. Modern cars accelerate much faster. All due to gearing and double clutch tech.

Marten Brundle sky sports commentator and former f1 driver who has driven the older cars and the modern cars has said a few times during the races that nothing he ever experienced in the older days accelerates like a modern f1 car.

[Mr I]

Wow I didn't realise

[Bouncer]

A Brit just got educated by an American on the subject of Formula 1. Has to be a first. :D

I watch every single qualifying and race on sky sports, I'm bound to learn something over the years.

[Mr I]

https://youtu.be/ReFugNjf7BM

The old 80s ones did like 215 mph on a straight though and Sureally as he'll would felt raw

[BEAST]

https://youtu.be/ReFugNjf7BM

The old 80s ones did like 215 mph on a straight though and Sureally as he'll would felt raw

If that's the case they were slower on straight away too because today's cars do around 230mph.

[Mr I]

If that's the case they were slower on straight away too because today's cars do around 230mph.

Beast I think the tracks change over time even in Mexico that's probably not the same track as the 80s

so it's hard to compare but in simple terms the cars used to be more powerful so in a straight line with similar aerodynamics I think this generally translated to faster top ends

[Bouncer]

LoL Mr I. You're trying hard to hold on to the romantic idea that things were better back in your youth.

Progress is progress. Lap records and straight line speed records are starting to get broken with the latest f1 cars.

Some tracks have changed. Imola for example was changed after Senna's death. Others have not. Spa is the same, monza is the same, Monaco is the same etc..

The goal in formula 1 is to get around the track as quickly as possible. It's not some sort of American drag race. Lap times are all that count on the podium and lap time records are all being broken with the newest f1 cars. Expect to see even more this year with the wider tires.

The cars of yesteryear had old fashioned gearing, they used heavier less aerodynamic materials. So even though they technically had more power they had a much less efficient use of that power.

[BEAST]

LoL Mr I. You're trying hard to hold on to the romantic idea that things were better back in your youth.

Progress is progress. Lap records and straight line speed records are starting to get broken with the latest f1 cars.

Some tracks have changed. Imola for example was changed after Senna's death. Others have not. Spa is the same, monza is the same, Monaco is the same etc..

The goal in formula 1 is to get around the track as quickly as possible. It's not some sort of American drag race. Lap times are all that count on the podium and lap time records are all being broken with the newest f1 cars. Expect to see even more this year with the wider tires.

The cars of yesteryear had old fashioned gearing, they used heavier less aerodynamic materials. So even though they technically had more power they had a much less efficient use of that power.

^^^
This! Until about 10 years ago cars lost ton of power between the engine and the tires. Car magazines used to put every car on the dyno to see how many horsepower was at the wheels. For example when they tested a car with 300hp, it ended up having like 180hp at the wheel. Drive line loss was huge. These days that has been improved immensely. In fact that's why today's cars with 220 hp little turbo four cylinders feels much much faster than the old big block V8 with 400hp. If you watch some of the new cars on the dyno there is very little power loss at the wheel.
My current little four banger will blow pretty much any old muscle car out of the water in a drag race and for sure in every track race. Lol.

So just because old car's engine produced 1400hp didn't mean it had 1400hp at the wheels.

[Mr I]

Yeah it's all a factor different tacks gears etc etc and beast I take your point

But your both kind of going backwards now


I can completely see acceleration and cornering would have improved but generally a 1450bhp engine will push a similarly shaped car faster top end in a straight line and there for those cars were generally faster

Not sure what your trying to make a thing of B

[Bouncer]

Yeah it's all a factor different tacks gears etc etc and beast I take your point

But your both kind of going backwards now


I can completely see acceleration and cornering would have improved but generally a 1450bhp engine will push a similarly shaped car faster top end in a straight line and there for those cars were generally faster

Not sure what your trying to make a thing of B

Bro the straight line speed record as beast posted in his screen shot was broken just last year. Modern lower HP cars are faster in the corners and the straights because they are more efficient at using the power they have. Combine that with lighter more modern materials and better aerodynamics and all the old speed records are falling.

So I'm not trying to make a thing out of anything bro. You just gotta realize when your wrong your wrong. It's nothing personal.