Chief of Staff General Kelly

[Scrumhalf]

I do not like Trump at all. But if I had to vote again for either him or Hillary I would vote for him. I do wish we had another Republican in office. I also agree for the most part with you on gun rights. I want to protect the 2nd amendment but am all for closing any background check loopholes and doing anything possible to keep them out of criminals hands. I can give credit when credit is due but you will NEVER hear scrum say anything positive about Trump.

Well, you are jumping to conclusions there. It's not that I can NEVER say anything positive about Trump. It is true that I have found anything positive to say about him so far. Like I said about Bush, I will give credit where it is die, and Bush did a lot for wildlife conservation, which I care for deeply.

I'll be more than happy to give credit to Trump if he does anything good. So far, I see no evidence of it. He's put absolutely incompetent people in charge of the agencies, and he's doing harm to the country that will be felt for generations.

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[Bouncer]

"I don't think he should apologize."

See, that's precisely the problem. In this case, apologize is precisely what he should have done. Not getting into a pissing match with a gold star family, REGARDLESS of who was at fault. There's no way to come out looking good by playing the blame game with a widow who just lost her husband and is pregnant with their child.

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he should apologize for having a public back and forth with the congresswomen. but so should the congresswomen! both of them have disregarded the families feelings at this point.

he SHOULD NOT apologize for trying to do the right thing and comfort the family in the best way he knows how. he was not playing politics with that call. its what happened after the call that is the problem.

[Chadd77]

2 things that come to mind without digging is the stock market is doing exceptionally well wouldn't you agree? And also I would say that he much better in the fight with ISIS.

[Bouncer]

2 things that come to mind without digging is the stock market is doing exceptionally well wouldn't you agree? And also I would say that he much better in the fight with ISIS.

stock market very often has nothing at all to do with the President. when the stock market went to shit during the housing bubble burst that was the banks and how they were manipulating and playing games with mortgages. Presidents all take credit when the stock market is up but blame the private sector when it's down.

Russia had a lot to do with wiping ISIS out. they fucken hammered em.

[Bouncer]

Chadd, if you haven't seen 'The Big Short' movie that came out in 2015 I highly recommend it. True story about the bubble and done in a way that dumb fucks like us can understand. :D

Great fucken movie. It's on netflix.

[Keiser]

I do not like Trump at all. But if I had to vote again for either him or Hillary I would vote for him. I do wish we had another Republican in office. I also agree for the most part with you on gun rights. I want to protect the 2nd amendment but am all for closing any background check loopholes and doing anything possible to keep them out of criminals hands. I can give credit when credit is due but you will NEVER hear scrum say anything positive about Trump.

Chadd, do you think your views on Hillary are in any way due to propaganda? The right has been tearing her down since 1992. If you really look at Hillary's positions on most things she much more moderate than you think. She's nothing like the extreme left for example Bernie or Feinstein. Go look at her website and her true positions on most issues. She's either center or left of center on many of them and as far as small business is concerned and capatilism she's right of center. She's always been a big proponent of small business and cutting taxes on the middle class. Trump just had his Benghazi by the way in Niger. Could you imagine the propaganda from the right if this happened on Hillary's watch? (Also it's been proven with Benghazi that Hillary tried to send more protection to the embassays but the right wanted to cut spending and wouldn't approve it).

Obama was the same. Remember when he got elected any all the gun stores ran out of ammunition in 2008 because he was "going to take your guns away"? That was simply propaganda. He did nothing of the sort. Remember all the propaganda about how Obama was going to "side with the Muslims". Well, he ramped up the wars in the middle east and fucked people up with Drone strikes. The left hated him for that. He was much more moderate than most were led to believe.

My fear is that we are going to end up with someone waaaay left like fucking Bernie Sanders which is why I'm OK with someone like Obama or Hillary.

[Keiser]

2 things that come to mind without digging is the stock market is doing exceptionally well wouldn't you agree? And also I would say that he much better in the fight with ISIS.

From 2009 to 2016 the Stock market made historic gains under Obama, waaay more than you are seeing now with Trump. It's interesting to me that people will give Trump credit for the Market but would never give Obama credit. See the hypocrisy? Interested in seeing the data? (And by the way the market movements shouldn't be tied to the president at all).

Check this out:

President and S&P 500, from the day of taking office through end of July

Eisenhower -5.3%
Kennedy 11.3%
Nixon -9.7%
Carter -4%
Reagan -0.6%
George H.W. Bush 20.7%
Clinton 3.4%
George W. Bush -9.8%
Obama 22.6%
Trump 8.8%