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  • #16
    This guy broke the skull of his infant son in 2012 yet he was allowed to purchase weapons legally.

    Fucking shame on Texas. Jesus Christ. What the fuck were they thinking allowing a person capable of cracking his own child's skull to purchase a weapon.

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    • #17
      god damn right. i'd like to shake this hillbillers hand.

      'He needed to be stopped,' says man who pursued Texas gunman | Reuters

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      • #18
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKMv_B_08Pg

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        • #19
          Bouncer, there are a lot of moving parts to this. There's the easy availability of guns, there's mental health, there's drug abuse that can contribute, there's PTSD. What the NIH and CDC can do is to do epidemiological studies to tie all these things together and to come up with strategies to address what is unquestionably an epidemic.

          But we refuse to let them do these studies. Do you know that Congress explicitly forbids a single penny in the NIH/CDC budgets to go on researching this? That's the NRA at work. If we don't understand the problem, we won't fix it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by lipripper View Post
            A lot of places have a clause that if you have a domestic violence conviction its considered like a felony and you cant have a firearm.
            :agreed:

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            • #21
              Scrum...Who is the NRA?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                Scrum...Who is the NRA?
                The NRA has lobbied heavily against funding the CDC/NIH to research gun violence. Why? Is it not in our best interest to determine causes and fixes for the gun violence epidemic we have in this country?

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                • #23
                  I'm all for research as long as it's not done with any bias or agenda. I'm not sure how politics could be kept away from that kind of research. Who would fund it?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                    The NRA has lobbied heavily against funding the CDC/NIH to research gun violence. Why? Is it not in our best interest to determine causes and fixes for the gun violence epidemic we have in this country?
                    Not what I asked but nice play...thanks for the response

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                      I'm all for research as long as it's not done with any bias or agenda. I'm not sure how politics could be kept away from that kind of research. Who would fund it?
                      CDC and NIH are funded under the federal budget. The research is done by scientists with peer review. I trust their findings and am confident in the quality of the research.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                        CDC and NIH are funded under the federal budget. The research is done by scientists with peer review. I trust their findings and am confident in the quality of the research.

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                        Do you believe that research could not be effected by politics or scientist that already have a strong opinion on the issue of guns one way or another?

                        With an issue like guns I'm not sure it's possible to find someone who doesn't already have a strong opinion on the matter. So if you go into something with a strong set of beliefs, that may effect the work their doing.

                        I trust science. I'm just not sure politics can be separated from this issue.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                          Not what I asked but nice play...thanks for the response

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                          What did you ask? I am confused. I just pointed out that NRA lobbying ensured that no CDC or NIH funds be used for gun violence research. It's a shame because we can learn a lot regarding the solutions.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                            Do you believe that research could not be effected by politics or scientist that already have a strong opinion on the issue of guns one way or another?

                            With an issue like guns I'm not sure it's possible to find someone who doesn't already have a strong opinion on the matter. So if you go into something with a strong set of beliefs, that may effect the work their doing.
                            As a scientist, I am fairly confident that the peer review process will help maintain objectivity on the research.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                              What did you ask? I am confused. I just pointed out that NRA lobbying ensured that no CDC or NIH funds be used for gun violence research. It's a shame because we can learn a lot regarding the solutions.

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                              Ok....who is the NRA?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                                As a scientist, I am fairly confident that the peer review process will help maintain objectivity on the research.

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                                You aren't a scientist that deals with something so strongly politically driven as guns bro. I honestly believe the gun issue is so heated and so divisive that even scientists can be swayed one way or another.

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